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29 Jan 2013, 6:37 pm

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"Leftover women" huh?
It's OK, you can still just reheat them and they'll taste just fine. Unless they're breaded, then they kind of suck, but a bottle of Buffalo sauce will take care of that.



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Sometimes they warm up even faster second time around.
It's a sin to let good eating go to waste :lol:

I'm with you on that one. If it's truly inedible, give it to a dog or use it for compost.


Suppose we don't have any pets, nor a garden?

Never too late to begin gardening or pet owning - or you can just sell the compost / dog food made from leftover women.



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29 Jan 2013, 7:18 pm

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Never too late to begin gardening or pet owning - or you can just sell the compost / dog food made from leftover women.


What kinds of plants grow best on compost made of leftover women? Cucumbers? Carrots?



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29 Jan 2013, 7:27 pm

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Never too late to begin gardening or pet owning - or you can just sell the compost / dog food made from leftover women.


What kinds of plants grow best on compost made of leftover women? Cucumbers? Carrots?

Anything remotely phallic will do just fine...



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30 Jan 2013, 12:52 am

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I had no idea there were that many divorced women in China...are you sure this is accurate information? Seems like most Chinese women who are looking to get hitched are young and never been married and if they are good looking, they might try for a rich foreigner. Why not?

I saw women in their early twenties on that link you provided...would they be the leftovers of the leftovers?


I just took a quick look, and noticed a bunch of middle-aged divorced Chinese women. Younger Chinese women had asked that their profiles be removed. So, maybe there is a good selection of hotties in their early 20s--I wasn't really shopping.

I noticed I looked under "Ukrainian" so maybe this is why? There were a lot of women with bleached hair. I thought this might be a trend in China... I later clicked it again and looked to the left and saw a lot of Chinese ladies in their forties like you said and realized I was looking at the Ukrainian women.

I am thinking the younger Chinese ladies get snatched up quickly and all who's left are the middle aged. There are a few who are younger so anyone interested better hurry. Problem with sites like that is I am sure those women get hundreds of replies. Seems like it would be too competitive.



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30 Jan 2013, 10:08 am

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I am thinking the younger Chinese ladies get snatched up quickly and all who's left are the middle aged. There are a few who are younger so anyone interested better hurry. Problem with sites like that is I am sure those women get hundreds of replies. Seems like it would be too competitive.


I wouldn't necessarily trust everything I saw on one of these international romance websites. If you google "A Foreign Affair Scam", then you'll get lots of information.

Read, for example, the text under this youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP1V2BB6LKU

Men who have entered their second childhood, or perhaps are having the proverbial "midlife crisis", may be somewhat easy to scam with these things.



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31 Jan 2013, 11:21 am

I'd like to join this discussion because I feel myself to be involved in these issues at a personal level. I have been married to a Chinese woman for nearly five years and have an adult family in China. I've also had a lot of Chinese friends in the UK for longer than that.

There are more men than women in China and that is a certain fact. However, I think there are other issues which should be discussed. First of all the one child policy and how true is that. In the times I have been to China I've seen couples with two children of various ages everywhere, although I have been told the ruling has to be kept by government workers. I have asked some Chinese women about the abortion issue and they straightforward tell me they would love both boys and girls. In fact some mothers prefer girls because they are a nice earner when the girl gets married. The groom side of the family have to pay generously to the bride's parents. So a father with three boys, and yes that is a real situation, has an almost unbearable expense. So maybe the abortion issue exists, but has been made rather too much of.

So are there really a good many left over women, and if so why? Again, out of the Chinese horses mouth: "they are too choosy." An attractive girl wants a man who has his own apartment and a car. "If I were a girl, I'd despair. The supply of good women far exceeds that of the men who deserve them." - Robert Graves There is an entertaining Chinese TV programme I may watch two times a week. 23 beautiful girls, plus one who is eccentric, completely plain or dumpy are hoping to meet the right man. I am told the priorities are "rich, tall, cool." Week after week the men of all sorts, including the rich, tall and cool, come and go just as quickly. Will nothing ever please some of these young women. I have to suppose they expect another lot of men to choose from the next week. It seems strange to me but the plain woman is almost just as likely to be chosen. One plain, dumpy lawyer, rejected a man who was also a lawyer, because she thought he looked too old. He was 36 and 6 years older than her.

At one point I was meeting a lot of Chinese women coming to this country on 5 year work permits. They were all married and I felt quite strongly they came to begin a new life without the husband. There are a good many divorces, which I am told is just following the western trend. I am also told that a woman over 40 is considered to be over the hill as far as marrying a Chinese man is concerned.

The internet dating sites are a good way of meeting the Chinese woman, especially the over 40's. However, their expectations may not be easily met. They are looking for marriage, which in the UK is slightly out of fashion. I had to tell my own wife before we were married, that there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow in the UK, neither are the streets paved with gold. The nice car and other goodies they see the western man enjoying are got with a loan and that will never satisfy a Chinese woman. So, all in all the Chinese woman has to be very careful when choosing a western man.



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31 Jan 2013, 11:42 am

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In fact some mothers prefer girls because they are a nice earner when the girl gets married. The groom side of the family have to pay generously to the bride's parents. So a father with three boys, and yes that is a real situation, has an almost unbearable expense.


In the USA, the problem is reversed, as a lot of girls expect their parents to pay the full cost of a lavish wedding.

Are the Chinese bride's parents expecting a big dowry? Or, lifelong financial support?



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31 Jan 2013, 11:44 am

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They are looking for marriage, which in the UK is slightly out of fashion.


Except among gays, perhaps? :P



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31 Jan 2013, 12:30 pm

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In the USA, the problem is reversed, as a lot of girls expect their parents to pay the full cost of a lavish wedding.


Same here. In China a collection is taken at the wedding feast. From what I've seen the collective generosity is often substantial.

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Are the Chinese bride's parents expecting a big dowry? Or, lifelong financial support?


They might expect old age support from a son, but I've seen the grandmother living with her married grandaughter. I suppose it depends on the situation.

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Except among gays, perhaps?


Well, errm yes. Chinese people tell me that gays do not exist in China. In fact from what I've heard said they are looked down upon and laughed at. Now in China the colour bright pink is considered OK for men. Once in a big store I had a about 10 sales assistants all trying to sell me a bright pink pullover. Over employment is something I've noticed in many stores. I finally got through to them the significance of pink in the UK and they all roared with laughter.



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31 Jan 2013, 4:01 pm

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So are there really a good many left over women, and if so why? Again, out of the Chinese horses mouth: "they are too choosy." An attractive girl wants a man who has his own apartment and a car. "If I were a girl, I'd despair. The supply of good women far exceeds that of the men who deserve them." - Robert Graves There is an entertaining Chinese TV programme I may watch two times a week. 23 beautiful girls, plus one who is eccentric, completely plain or dumpy are hoping to meet the right man. I am told the priorities are "rich, tall, cool." Week after week the men of all sorts, including the rich, tall and cool, come and go just as quickly. Will nothing ever please some of these young women. I have to suppose they expect another lot of men to choose from the next week. It seems strange to me but the plain woman is almost just as likely to be chosen. One plain, dumpy lawyer, rejected a man who was also a lawyer, because she thought he looked too old. He was 36 and 6 years older than her.


If they're going to be that choosy, then maybe they prefer the single life.

Given that women are outperforming men, academically and professionally, many of them are going to have to compromise on hypergamous ambitions, or remain single.

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The internet dating sites are a good way of meeting the Chinese woman, especially the over 40's. However, their expectations may not be easily met. They are looking for marriage, which in the UK is slightly out of fashion. I had to tell my own wife before we were married, that there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow in the UK, neither are the streets paved with gold. The nice car and other goodies they see the western man enjoying are got with a loan and that will never satisfy a Chinese woman. So, all in all the Chinese woman has to be very careful when choosing a western man.


I think that most of our old coots who have entered their second childhood are considering China (or other countries) with the idea of getting themselves a hawt young blossom. If they wanted a middle aged divorced woman--I think that we have plenty of them without having to check out the supply in China.



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01 Feb 2013, 7:52 am

The city my wife comes from has a terrific street scene at night. We can go dancing in the paved area of a park or the front of stores. This is happening all over the place. So one week I see this old guy, looking American, the wrong side of 80, well rich and about ready to keel over. Next I see this middle aged Chinese woman who could by no standard be called attractive dancing with him. He doesn't move very fast. I laughed to myself and thought wow, she got her claws sunk deep into him. I could see it all written on her face. I looked again and she was by herself. I just don't know how he was able to escape.

I was talking with a well educated Chinese man I knew well enough. I gave him my opinion that the Chinese could succeed if they became more innovative. His response was, hahahahahahahhahaha, what, the Chinese man innovative, hahahahahahahahahahah. Maybe the Chinese education system has a lot to do with it, with learning strictly by wrote. The young people who get an education here in the UK for example then return would surely help. I knew a number who came here to get an MSc and then return. I was chatting to one of these MSc's, she already had a doctor's degree in China, and she told me stronger Chinese woman are wanting to make their lives by themselves and dictate their own terms.



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01 Feb 2013, 8:36 pm

It looks like even lady millionaires have a tough time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGTfjtyVUCw



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02 Feb 2013, 12:52 am

Thanks for the video. I think it was honest journalism.



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02 Feb 2013, 10:11 pm

Kidnapping does seem to be a problem

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpXWIHdQ6qA[/youtube]



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12 Mar 2013, 10:07 am

Interesting: even faced with an oversupply of Chinese men, a number of Chinese women seem to like foreign men (at least one's with fair skin).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHWOK5f1sE[/youtube]



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12 Mar 2013, 10:15 am

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i wondered if the same problem was happening n China, and it turns out that yes... the women are being sold into slavery from North Korea. :cry:


It looks like a fair number of North Korean ladies who make it to South Korea end up with South Korean husbands.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgU7rDje-eY[/youtube]