If you concluded earth is hell

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i can only speak for myself, but i had some unusually vivid dreams in which i saw glimpses of previous lifetimes - in one i was a thug, a common brutal thief/burglar/bullyboy who saw himself in a reflection of the windowglass in front of a prison building where i was toiling in a veggie garden in front. i was short, swarthy, black-haired, bulky yet athletic, with the expression of a dumb animal but with a sneer. in another lifetime [i believe before the other one] i was a tall, fair, blond playboy who jilted one too many rich women and found himself on the rejected end, and my giant ego couldn't handle that so i threw myself off of the ocean-going ship i was on. that would seem to put some light on my present situation as a hermit in a kind of penance lifetime. i see people living heavenly lives when i turn on the TV or go to the city and see the city swells leading their carefree lives in carefree bodies in upper-class splendor. and i see people in my corner of yahooville leading lives of tedious squalor or worse, with some living under bridges and freezing to death [always a few frozen corpses discovered each winter]. one person i went to high school with, he was intellectually normal but he had psychological demons plus he had a deformed face, apparently life did not go well for him and one day he went to a gas station, took a pump, doused himself with fuel and lit a match. afterwards it was discovered that he had lived in an abandoned barn in the dead of winter for at least 6 weeks, and was probably freezing cold. i wept for him. he and I were on opposite ends of the island of unwanted rejected toy humans but i was luckier. some eastern religions refer to this world as a "hellworld." i can dig it

anyways, for what it's worth to you [since you asked for other people's beliefs], i believe we existed in spirit for untold eons before incarnating on a young earth, matriculating into higher realms of thought organization/life forms over countless centuries. i believe some come here voluntarily but most are given little choice but to come here as penance for misbehavior/failure on higher worlds, and end up getting trapped in a karmic web of chained failures. of course it all was arranged before our births. no spiritual being is forced to incarnate but the consequences of refusal are less than pleasant and include being returned to undifferentiated light [losing one's individual identity and rejoining the collective spirit world from which spiritual life originates], IOW being recycled. this little ditty by rumi expresses how i feel about it-

I died as a mineral and became a plant;
I died as a plant and rose to animal;
I died as animal and I was a man.
Why should I fear? When was I less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die as man to soar
With angels blest. Yet even from an angel
I must pass on; All except God must perish.
When I have sacrificed my angel soul,
I shall become what no mind ever conceived.

That was very interesting. If you're being sarcastic, you really went to great lengths. If you wanna hear a strange story about past lives in my family, PM me.

i would not be sarcastic to you, because you are a decent fellow it is a waste of time to be sarcastic to anyone because, in the words of bertrand russell, "It is a waste of energy to be angry with a man who behaves badly, just as it is to be angry with a car that won't go. "

I voted other
Hell is visited upon
not everyone
especially teenagers and toddlers

Yep id say so time to jam the guitar!!

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To enter the kingdom of heaven
one must be as a young child
simple uncluttered enlightened
cast your weight aside
and fly with the angels

If I concluded Earth was hell?

I'd investigate further. As in, what comes afterwards in that case? Have we been damned here forever?

Then I'd probably carry on trying to make it more like heaven, and if need be, myself as God (though it's far more responsibility than I'd like). Basically, what I do if I didn't believe God existed, or if I thought we'd been abandoned.

I don't know if it's hell, but it sure is weird.

Weeee!! !

I don't know about Earth being hell. Sometimes existence is,sometimes it's heaven.
Probably depends on the mood swing.And if the sun is out.

According to the only bible I've read through completely, a Christian bible, hell is eternal. That would mean no matter if we die, we will experience a rebirth on earth, such is life... Infinite. God mode in a way, but in hell.

Concluding that Hell is Earth is like concluding that Geneva Switzerland is really Camden N.J. USA.

ruveyn

If this is Hell, Hell is awesome!

awesomely ungood.