Atlanta: Child Shot In Head At School

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Always looking out for the criminal, aren’t ya?


Like how the war on drugs got them out of society?
I can drive three miles from my house and buy all the dope I want, especially meth.
Some say it can be had a lot closer, too.

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Shame on you.

thomas81,

Have a look at Switzerland and its rate of firearms ownership and homicide rate.

I've done the numbers for the developed countries; there's no correlation worth of note between firearms ownership and homicide rate. When I say worth of note, it can be more firearms equaling less murders or more firearms equaling more based purely on how many more countries you add, but they're always so close to be effectively the same. I'll get around to doing the top 48 developed countries sometime, but my standard deviations for 24 and 36 developed countries when split into two groups were quite small (meaning, accurate); I don't expect it to change.

Though, the US is pretty much the one outlier with its relatively high homicide rate compared to other developed ones. With that above, something other than firearms is at play (I'm not discounting firearms can't be a part of it, but I can't say it's the main reason).

Yeah, you're right. I misspelled "buy" so I went back and fixed it.

Silly OP, you forgot to quote a part of the particle:

Imagine that, evil can be stopped by a law abiding person with a gun.

Wait, so now you're psychic and able to tell me what the "real" purpose of my own actions is? Cause I've been target shooting for years simply for the fun of it, not to practice for some later bullet on flesh action. Many of the guns I own are utterly impractical as weapons, but tons of fun to shoot (paging Mr. Eagle, Mr. Desert Eagle...), and the pleasure of shooting targets with them is the only reason I own them. I don't throw darts at the pub in preparation for one day throwing one at a person, nor do I throw knives or shoot arrows for any reason other than finding these activities enjoyable, despite them also involving hitting a target with a weapon. I do derive a side benefit from my shooting sports activities of achieving and retaining proficiency with tools that are very useful for defensive purposes, but to say that I'm only training myself to one day shoot at people is a gross distortion.

Maybe you lack the imagination to picture someone enjoying shooting for its own sake, but that's a failure on your part, and it should be acknowledged as such.



Then why do we also have more non-gun homicides than comparable countries as well? Do the guns emit some sort of fume that just makes the whole country turn murderous? Or how the fact that we've been liberalizing gun laws for the last decade or so, and our crime is at a 30 year low and continuing to drop, despite record gun sales and more people than ever carrying guns in public? Perhaps we need something besides simplistic analysis from people who don't even live here...



YOU guarantee? Oh, well in that case....
More seriously, you've got that weasel wording in there, "gun related" as opposed to total violence. Maybe our "gun related" violence would fall, though the evidence from other countries that have tried it is, lets just say, unconvincing, but as I don't think the choice of murder weapon is the real concern of the murdered, and that as Americans are very adept at killing each other with or without firearms, I doubt our total levels would move much. Which brings us back to your tunnel vision on the guns and refusal to look at the underlying problems, which is, as I've said before, akin to simply strapping down someone who's having a seizure, as that solve the immediate problem, and not trying to diagnose why they're actually flailing about.