Mormonism might be good for aspies in that

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some of any group are weird.

Going back to the original post, I think that mormonism would be good for anyone with AS who can accept their church. Likewise (for anyone over 21) I think Rotary, Apex, Lyons, Freemasonry also provide friendly socialising opportunities (but without women, generally).

I'll stay LaVey Satanist thankyouverymuch.

I was never insulting your religon though DGDwhatever. I'm just saying you cannot tell me to shut up because of something called "The First Amendment" Heard of it?

well exactly. I don't believe that Jesus visited Natives 2000 years ago. Ice cream socials are nice tho

you do indoctrinate, or used to here in the uk at least. where i used to live the local mormon church would send pairs of guys out to "spread the word". they appeared to try and target the young and you'd often see them in parks talking to groups of kids, giving out the books and stuff.

I agree with you. But don't target Mormons, specifically, with that complaint. The Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Gideons, and Evangelicals are just as bad.

In general, Christianity promotes prosletyzing.

oh, completely agreed janicka. maybe i should have noted that it's not only mormons who do it. where i was living until recently, it was largely mormons and jehovah's witnesses we would get. but i don't doubt other groups are doing it too.

Flagg, while I've heard of the first admendment and vaguely know what it's about, I will say that its not international. Until we have a definitive version (or failing that, an explictly-stated opinon from alex), I think its safer to assume it doesn't apply here.
Plus, PC overkill...

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. Faith is something that you have to discover, it can't come to you by evidence, otherwise it isn't faith, so why would people believe in something where evidence says that it is true?
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Look dude, I'm not attacking your beliefs, I'm attacking the stupidity of this statement. Asking why people believe in something that is backed up by evidence is stupid. If I said the sky is blue, and you look up, and the sky is blue, you have evidence. If you continue to think the sky is red, your a ret*d. It's not an attack on you being mormon, it's an attack on an utterly stupid statement.

Snake - as stupid as that statement may seem, it is a seriously major aspect of what Mormons define as "faith". So, in essence, an attack on the stupidity of the statement is an attack on the LDS faith. Here's a link to the LDS Church's website where faith is defined. Not quite word-for-word like dgd1788 said, but it makes the point.

http://www.mormon.org/learn/0,8672,835-1,00.html

Well I kinda try to bite my toungue on the fact that religion is stupid, even though I know it. The reason being, 95% of people anywhere I go belong to a religion (usually christian, and some of them, the ones who are in government or support them, are f---ing loonies).... And, they get really defensive about it, seeing as the religion trend has went to far to stop, I just figure let people play their little game..
But in all honesty, religion has already been proven wrong, atleast the religions of this world. It was proven wrong when they found fossils that proved evolution. I think the main reason why it still exists is because people are too overly emotional to accept logic, and when they've been brainwashed all their lives to believe in set religion, and then see evidence that their religion was incorrect, instead of acknowledging it they'll turn their heads, often twist facts to support their views (sound familiar? Think feminists, they do this alot too)... Anyhow, they continue to teach their kids the lies they were taught, and then they teach their kids, and so on and so on. But, I'm far from agreeing with secular humanists though, so I won't paint them to look like angels either.

I do feel strongly about one thing dealing with religion though, and that is that all religions, or lack of, should be treated equally. Extremists in Christianity here in America, and in Islam in the Middle East, are washing away any traces of equality, and hince now we have a major religious war starting back up. Crusades, round 2.
Of coarse when you look back on Christian history, they also had major wars with pagans. It's stupid to play the game of "who started it", because it's beyond telling. It's obvious neither side in any of those wars were acting rationally. Secular humanism too though, is just as much a cult.

This thread reminds me of the time when, a few years ago, one of my co-workers suggested that I should join her church, for no other reason than that they had a shortage of eligible young men. The essence of her message was that because I was a nice guy, I'd find a lot of nice young single women at her church who would very likely be interested in meeting someone like me.

The church was one of the Pentacostal Assemblies in town. My response to her was that I appreciated the invitation, but since I was an atheist the most likely outcome of my visit would be that I'd be burned at the stake.

I have several Mormon friends. Not one has ever tried to convert me.

Well, my ex was an exception to that rule. We met in NY and he immediately began trying to brainwash me and convert me, etc. And he wasn't from UT either, though we did end up moving there.

I think that I would have been fine learning about Mormonism on my own terms (e.g. with conversion off the table). It would still be interesting to learn about Mormonism from an objective source. The only info on Mormonism seems to have a hidden agenda - either it is from the Mormon Church, which is trying to gain converts, or it is from strong anti-Mormon folks who treat Mormonism like an evil cult.

Look dude, I'm not attacking your beliefs, I'm attacking the stupidity of this statement. Asking why people believe in something that is backed up by evidence is stupid. If I said the sky is blue, and you look up, and the sky is blue, you have evidence. If you continue to think the sky is red, your a ret*d. It's not an attack on you being mormon, it's an attack on an utterly stupid statement.[/quote]

The sky isn't red, nor does the sky have anything to do with my beliefs.

Saying that we are a cult is a sign of bigotry, therefore people who say anything bad about people's beliefs are bigots.

Right, my religion teaches that all black people should be murdered. Are you a bigot for criticising that belief?