naturalplastic wrote:
Dont claim to know squat about "theta waves".
But if theta waves are a rare thing only achieved by masters of meditiation- BUT- we find that UFO abductees commonly have them all of the time- what would that prove (if anything)?
It could be taken two ways.
That's putting theta waves on a much higher pedestal than what they earn. Any time you daze out while driving supposedly you're in theta. Any time you really get into something and sort of 'lose yourself' you might be in a higher hz frame of it. Shaman, Buddhist Monks, Carmelite Nuns, etc. can hit the lower thetas (thetas range roughly from the 4hz to 7 or 8hz range) but if you really want to train your brain to do it you can listen to theta binaurals (which do seem to work quite well), isochronic pulse, etc.
That said though thetas on their own do not cause mystical experience, that could either mean it takes thetas in particular parts of the head (perhaps temporal lobe as a wild but half-educated guess) and that could explain at least night time 'abducted from bed' sensations occasionally. When you have mass people who, as Fnord pointed out, are in beta state - out drinking coffee, chatting with friends, and see a whole bunch of strange orange orbs in the sky - that kind of shoots down the idea that theta is the core of it, much like the phenomena of some people consistently coming up with pictures that the authorities on doctored images can't figure out (Billy Meier was in that group) as well as times where burn-marks have been found, you also have the instance where when crop-circles aren't stomped they seem to be microwaved, and sometimes when they are stomped by fakers the fakers will find out that they themselves were duped - ie. they thought to make hypothetically a Star of David, just to find out that a day before they did this a whole bunch of ladies were sitting in a field trying to invoke a Star of David crop circle.
So, the whole UFO thing is an incredibly difficult thing to unravel - some of it might be thought-forms breaking through the barrier, either in the raw or even captivating the ideas of the fakers. Silverish discs on the other hand seem a bit more tangible which would point to something more concrete than thought-forms but, lol, what the eff do we know... I suppose if people have had war of the worlds on their minds or sexy dashing space-humans including lathe women with 1960's bobs and the big blue eye-shadow, who knows... w*k thoughts of teen boys through the 60's and 70's to B horror might be a stronger creative force than we might have realized.....or not. We can guess all day but for right now I suppose we just don't know.
naturalplastic wrote:
Does being abducted by aliens CAUSE you to get theta waves (when you wouldnt normally)?
Depends - abducted in sleep they'd proceed the abduction because theta is part of the hypnogogic state as you drift off in to deeper sleep - ie. delta.
naturalplastic wrote:
Or..are there exceptional people in the world who naturally get theta waves (ie naturally go into odd mental states) who...ummmm... Whom the aliens like to abduct( to exclusion of the rest of us) for some reason?
natural - you yourself are in theta more than you realize, albeit its probably (and by the nature of theta) in states where you're reflexively not realizing much.
When was the last time you were abducted by aliens? If its been a while you can probably write your thetas out of worry.
naturalplastic wrote:
That reason being that-aliens dont exist- and that folks who get theta waves tend to blur fantasy with reality.
People can experience them differently and I think its perhaps having them expand into much more sensory areas that opens up visions, what people consider astral travel, etc.
Mind you - people who meditate and get psychedelic experience, or even people who are just having a psychedelic experience, are indead having neurological feedback as their own brain centers sort of loop back on themselves. At the same time many people claim to observe effects that this has an actual rather than psychological effect - ie. they're both having a self-enduced 'hallucination' but the hallucinatory state can cause very deep-level mechancs of reality to shift, change, etc.. Its kind of like the phenomena of a guy and his friends dropping acid and within a few hours a young couple runs up bangs on the door, they run off, then there are tons of police cruising up and down the street and the guys who are tripping are stuck giving a police report. Or, those same guys are tripping and on no other night but that night a whole bunch of people are running through the woods behind the house with flashlight - true the guys are tripping but they go outside and see that the neighbor's house is TP'd well enough to look like a holloween ghost - a house they've never seen vandalized once. In another situation those same guys do the same thing at a different friend's house, they're smoking on the deck while peaking and all of a sudden there's a pick up truck stuck in the mud between the houses - the neighbor girl is running off with her boyfriend and leaving home.
The observable happens, on the witty side, when you get f'd up and sober people start acting weird or, when you have a deep meditative experience where you've contacted entities or contacted a friend and find out in talking to someone later that you shared an experience or that you tapped into something you'd never read. It happens, and stranger things happen as well.
24 Feb 2013, 8:53 pm
