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14 Jul 2013, 1:43 am

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should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without even getting bucked off.



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14 Jul 2013, 1:48 am

eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without falling off.


getting punched in the head is life threatening there have been many cases of people getting killed from one punch

Zimmerman got his head smashed into the concrete

under your logic you have to be literally on the verge of death before you can defend yourself



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14 Jul 2013, 1:58 am

chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without falling off.


getting punched in the head is life threatening there have been many cases of people getting killed from one punch

Zimmerman got his head smashed into the concrete

under your logic you have to be literally on the verge of death before you can defend yourself


So if there is some chance that it might harm you, then it is okay to shoot someone?

Martin didn't even use deadly force against Zimmerman. The definition of "deadly force" in Florida law explicitly states that it has to be likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Not just a chance, but likely to cause death or serious bodily harm.



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14 Jul 2013, 2:32 am

eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without falling off.


getting punched in the head is life threatening there have been many cases of people getting killed from one punch

Zimmerman got his head smashed into the concrete

under your logic you have to be literally on the verge of death before you can defend yourself


So if there is some chance that it might harm you, then it is okay to shoot someone?

Martin didn't even use deadly force against Zimmerman. The definition of "deadly force" in Florida law explicitly states that it has to be likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Not just a chance, but likely to cause death or serious bodily harm.


he was getting his head slammed into the concrete if thats not serious harm I dont know what is

what do you consider serious harm? do you have to wait till your attacker pulls out a knife and guts you?



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14 Jul 2013, 2:44 am

chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without falling off.


getting punched in the head is life threatening there have been many cases of people getting killed from one punch

Zimmerman got his head smashed into the concrete

under your logic you have to be literally on the verge of death before you can defend yourself


So if there is some chance that it might harm you, then it is okay to shoot someone?

Martin didn't even use deadly force against Zimmerman. The definition of "deadly force" in Florida law explicitly states that it has to be likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Not just a chance, but likely to cause death or serious bodily harm.


he was getting his head slammed into the concrete if thats not serious harm I dont know what is

what do you consider serious harm? do you have to wait till your attacker pulls out a knife and guts you?


Obviously, you don't know.



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14 Jul 2013, 2:46 am

eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without falling off.


getting punched in the head is life threatening there have been many cases of people getting killed from one punch

Zimmerman got his head smashed into the concrete

under your logic you have to be literally on the verge of death before you can defend yourself


So if there is some chance that it might harm you, then it is okay to shoot someone?

Martin didn't even use deadly force against Zimmerman. The definition of "deadly force" in Florida law explicitly states that it has to be likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Not just a chance, but likely to cause death or serious bodily harm.


he was getting his head slammed into the concrete if thats not serious harm I dont know what is

what do you consider serious harm? do you have to wait till your attacker pulls out a knife and guts you?


Obviously, you don't know.

then how did he get the lacerations on the back of his head? to you seriously believe that Zimmerman just walked up and shot him? because the ballistics say otherwise



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14 Jul 2013, 3:12 am

chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without falling off.


getting punched in the head is life threatening there have been many cases of people getting killed from one punch

Zimmerman got his head smashed into the concrete

under your logic you have to be literally on the verge of death before you can defend yourself


So if there is some chance that it might harm you, then it is okay to shoot someone?

Martin didn't even use deadly force against Zimmerman. The definition of "deadly force" in Florida law explicitly states that it has to be likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Not just a chance, but likely to cause death or serious bodily harm.


he was getting his head slammed into the concrete if thats not serious harm I dont know what is

what do you consider serious harm? do you have to wait till your attacker pulls out a knife and guts you?


Obviously, you don't know.

then how did he get the lacerations on the back of his head? to you seriously believe that Zimmerman just walked up and shot him? because the ballistics say otherwise


Don't be daft. I have never claimed that they weren't fighting.

It is quite clear that they were in a fight. Not much of a fight as fights go, but it was undoubtedly a fight.

And like any routine fight, when one pulls out a firearm and shoots the other, he should go to prison.



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14 Jul 2013, 3:35 am

eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
should of never went to trial in the first place
they did not have the evidence to arrest Zimmerman at the scene it was only till the media jumped on it almost a month later

Zimmerman should sue the state for this whole mess he would probably win


Hmmm. They didn't arrest Cordell Jude at the scene where he shot Daniel Adkins. Actually, not for several months. Does that mean that this case should never go to trial?

In case you aren't familiar with the case, Daniel Adkins was a late 20s mentally challenged individual who was walking by a Taco Bell in Arizona with his dog. Cordell Jude almost ran into him pulling out from the Taco Bell, Daniel Adkins pounded on the hood of his vehicle once and shook his fist at him. Cordell Jude responded by shooting Daniel Adkins on the spot and then claimed that he felt threatened by Daniel Adkins.


thats far different then defending yourself from being assaulted and having your head pounded into the sidewalk


Some pounding. It wasn't the least bit life threatening or a threat to his health. I've been hurt far worse riding a horse without falling off.


getting punched in the head is life threatening there have been many cases of people getting killed from one punch

Zimmerman got his head smashed into the concrete

under your logic you have to be literally on the verge of death before you can defend yourself


So if there is some chance that it might harm you, then it is okay to shoot someone?

Martin didn't even use deadly force against Zimmerman. The definition of "deadly force" in Florida law explicitly states that it has to be likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Not just a chance, but likely to cause death or serious bodily harm.


he was getting his head slammed into the concrete if thats not serious harm I dont know what is

what do you consider serious harm? do you have to wait till your attacker pulls out a knife and guts you?


Obviously, you don't know.

then how did he get the lacerations on the back of his head? to you seriously believe that Zimmerman just walked up and shot him? because the ballistics say otherwise


Don't be daft. I have never claimed that they weren't fighting.

It is quite clear that they were in a fight. Not much of a fight as fights go, but it was undoubtedly a fight.

And like any routine fight, when one pulls out a firearm and shoots the other, he should go to prison.


it was not a fight it was an assault
other than the gunshot wound trayvon had no injury's and theres no evidence that says otherwise and thats why Zimmerman walked



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14 Jul 2013, 3:44 am

chris5000 wrote:
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Don't be daft. I have never claimed that they weren't fighting.

It is quite clear that they were in a fight. Not much of a fight as fights go, but it was undoubtedly a fight.

And like any routine fight, when one pulls out a firearm and shoots the other, he should go to prison.


it was not a fight it was an assault
other than the gunshot wound trayvon had no injury's and theres no evidence that says otherwise and thats why Zimmerman walked


Has any of the jurors gave any indication of how they came to their decision? If not, then none of us know why they found him Not Guilty.



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14 Jul 2013, 3:54 am

eric76 wrote:
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Don't be daft. I have never claimed that they weren't fighting.

It is quite clear that they were in a fight. Not much of a fight as fights go, but it was undoubtedly a fight.

And like any routine fight, when one pulls out a firearm and shoots the other, he should go to prison.


it was not a fight it was an assault
other than the gunshot wound trayvon had no injury's and theres no evidence that says otherwise and thats why Zimmerman walked


Has any of the jurors gave any indication of how they came to their decision? If not, then none of us know why they found him Not Guilty.

he was found not guilty because there was no evidence to prove otherwise
you are innocent till proven guilty



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14 Jul 2013, 5:46 am

Guys, there really is no reason to keep on re-quoting the quotes of the quotes of the quotes... It just wastes screen space and makes the thread more difficult to follow.

Please use the "Post Reply" button when responding to the post immediately above.
Use the "Quote" button only when you need to actually quote something - and even then, edit back what you quote to the essential part you're addressing.


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14 Jul 2013, 6:49 am

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Any chance Sanford will erupt into violence in the next fifteen minutes?


There will not be a riot until Jesse Jackson arrives on the scene.

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14 Jul 2013, 7:05 am

I want to drive down there and kill him with my own two hands. However, Florida juries won't come back with an acquittal if the victim is over18.. Zimmerman shoul marry Casey Anthony!


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14 Jul 2013, 9:33 am

It's over, Frances.

Unless you can change the laws, there is little to be done.



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14 Jul 2013, 11:18 am

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Has any of the jurors gave any indication of how they came to their decision? If not, then none of us know why they found him Not Guilty.

he was found not guilty because there was no evidence to prove otherwise
you are innocent till proven guilty[/quote]

The there was reasonable doubt of Mr. Z's guilt. The prosecution could not have gotten an indictment unless there were some evidence.

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