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23 Jul 2013, 12:12 pm

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Not everyone will stop and help, though. Some don't want to get involved or think they have more important things to do like going to Starbucks.

Is that allowed? If you refuse help in an emergency in my country, you get sentenced for refusing that help. (So its according to the ability of the person to help. But if you are physical and mental able to help you are forced to do so, until the first official helper is here or an obvious better person, as a nurse as example.)

I don't think it's illegal to stop and help. I do stop so I never really thought about it.

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23 Jul 2013, 1:32 pm

No one injured, another man stopped too. And the Sanford PD puts out a press release naming Zimmerman. It shows that Zim's allies know that his problem now his image. And they want to help him.

Tough sell.

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23 Jul 2013, 1:48 pm

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I don't disagree that helping someone in need is desirable, but I think there's more going on here.

Such as? Based on what evidence?

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23 Jul 2013, 1:56 pm

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Why would the Sanford PD want to help Zimmerman? His case got their chief fired, made them a national laughingstock, and there were officers within the department who wanted to arrest and charge him from the get go; in other words, the idea that they're the leaders of the George Zimmerman Fanclub is *slightly* ridiculous. This is getting into conspiracy theory territory, you know that, right?

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23 Jul 2013, 1:57 pm

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I don't think it's illegal to stop and help. I do stop so I never really thought about it.

In some places it's illegal to not stop and help, under the Good Samaritan laws.

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23 Jul 2013, 1:59 pm

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Shucks! now you made my statement sound like fiction.

Oh, you prefer your version, the one that doesn't jibe with the facts in evidence? Apparently I can add "fiction" to the list of words with different Australian meanings.

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23 Jul 2013, 2:04 pm

Dox47 wrote:

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I don't disagree that helping someone in need is desirable, but I think there's more going on here.

Such as? Based on what evidence?

I don't wish to continue with my asenine and petulant rantings too much ( :wink:

,) but he never should have gotten out of the car to get the address. He put himself in a dangerous position and someone died because of it. He showed bad judgment and should show some contrition for it. His involvement in this crash shows that he is still defining himself in a caretaker role rather than leaving things to authorities.

Some people are drawn to crime and scenes of suffering because they want to be of service to society, but this can lead to more trouble than it's worth, as in the case of Zimmerman/Martin.

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23 Jul 2013, 2:07 pm

Dox47 wrote:

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I don't think it's illegal to stop and help. I do stop so I never really thought about it.

In some places it's illegal to not stop and help, under the Good Samaritan laws.

Typo on my part. I forgot to put a not between illegal and to.

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23 Jul 2013, 4:13 pm

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As if anyone else would not have done this?I helped a woman out of a truck that was upside down,that's what you do.

you actually should not unless the vehical is on fire or something. it puts you at a legal liability especially if they have a neck injury, moving them wrong could be the difference from being paralyzed and not paralyzed

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I've been twitching every time I see this story reported. They hammered this into us in EMT training.

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23 Jul 2013, 4:28 pm

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Misslizard wrote:

As if anyone else would not have done this?I helped a woman out of a truck that was upside down,that's what you do.

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I've been twitching every time I see this story reported. They hammered this into us in EMT training.

This is what I'm talking about. Sometimes people rush in to be of assistance and fail to realize that they are not qualified to deal with the problem.

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23 Jul 2013, 4:30 pm

Zimmerman's act is of no avail He killed a Negro and for that he will pay.

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23 Jul 2013, 4:34 pm

And now all is forgiven.

Oh, wait, he freaking shot a kid in cold blood. There's no forgiveness for that, ever. Sorry to all of the Zimmerman apologists out there.

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23 Jul 2013, 4:38 pm

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Zimmerman was known to them, went on ride alongs, was a watch who called 911 like 40 times in some recent span of time and probably interacted with many of the cops, could move around the station without escort and got a pretty light treatment the night of the shooting. In addition he waited for police after the accident, as a non-witness to an accident with no injuries, and made sure to go up and introduce himself to police. He's completely obsessed with law enforcement. It's not conspiratorial to assume that a guy like that might have police supporters.

I very much doubt they would put out a press release about an average person in the same situation. It would go into the "more sh*t happens" circular file.

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23 Jul 2013, 5:10 pm

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He had lost interest in becoming a cop like over a year ago, if I remember correctly from the trial. Since then he had shown no interest in a career in law enforcement but instead focused his education toward a law degree with a goal of practicing law.

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23 Jul 2013, 7:52 pm

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I think it's less about losing interest in the subject than realizing that he was turned down before and that now his chances are between slim and none. I read about his new interest in the law. I don't know who would hire him as a lawyer but hopefully he realizes that the field is completely oversaturated. He'll have a lot of competition from people with less baggage.

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23 Jul 2013, 8:01 pm

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And now all is forgiven.

Oh, wait, he freaking shot a kid in cold blood. There's no forgiveness for that, ever. Sorry to all of the Zimmerman apologists out there.

Were you the judge or a member of the jury?

If not, your opinion is irrelevant.

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