Why you don't see atheists feeding the poor

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The other thing all these studies do not consider is that a church itself is considered charity. So when a Christian gives to their church it is considered a charitable donation.

However, if you give a church $100; $90 of it goes to administrative costs and only $10 goes to an actual person who needs it.

I'd be giving more to the actual person in need, if I donated $40 directly to the cause and not gone through the church. Back out all that church administrative junk and get back to me.

Speculation is, by definition, unsupported by solid evidence. Asking someone to provide evidence is therefore an unnecessary step where speculation is concerned. Had GGPViper asserted that his speculation was fact, I would support the request for evidence wholeheartedly. Without such an assertion, I suggest you do as I will: label his post 'opinion' and give it no further thought.



From the article:



Are you suggesting that 4000 users of a little-known private for profit charity are representative of the 7 or so billion people on the planet?

In 2011, Pew did a survey dividing voters into overall groups depending on their political preferences (See a description of the typology here: http://www.people-press.org/2011/05/04/ ... -profiles/).

The group most likely to support bigger government, trust the government and want more government aid to the needy (Solid Liberals) is also the group with contains the highest percentage (40 percent) of religiously unaffiliated voters.




Source:
http://www.people-press.org/2011/05/04/ ... oalitions/
http://www.people-press.org/2011/05/04/ ... s-sources/
http://www.people-press.org/2011/05/04/ ... tionalism/

Also note that the voters most distrustful of government on the same issues (Staunch Conservatives) are also very religious (43+ are White Evangelical).

Another perspective:

The countries that allocate the largest percentage of GDP to Official development assistance are also among the least religious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_go ... il_2013.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance ... by_country

So the discrepancy in charitable acts between religious and non-religious individuals (even with secular charities) could be a byproduct of disagreement on how charitable work should be carried out: By individual donations or by the government.

The people using the kitchen don't care what you believe in.

Stupid.

No they don't, however the people running the kitchen evidently do. Why they would care, I don't know.

I knew we could count on you! Pew Research is about as irrefutable as you can get.

Thanx!

Now he's made an assertion.

Well-provided, sir.

While this is true, one small sidenote: actually polls showed about 50 pct of Israelis are atheists. They may be Jewish in terms of race, because when you are born from a Jewish mother you are considered Jewish no matter if you follow the Jewish religion or not. Israel is a very secular place (except Jerusalem) and many people may be Jewish in race there but never observe the Jewish religion.

Here in Melbourne Australia, the organisations handing out food to the poor are usually evil cults, like the Salvation Army. However, I can think of at least one secular organisation here, Food Not Bombs, and they do vegan food handouts as well, not the gluten loaded nutritionally bereft cheapslop of the Salvos.

Totally uncalled for.

After all, even the Salvation Army, who rock up with their trumpets, bassoons, tubas and tambourine ensemble, making more noise than Iron Maiden, have the common decency to wait until after lunch.

By the way, I noticed that 91 and Videodrome made the exactly same claim as I did earlier in the thread.

Neither of those claims prompted a 4-post discussion about the validity of their claims (nor a snarky response to my subsequent documentation). So, what gives?

If I am being selectively targeted for having a history of backing up my points with data, then perhaps I should stop being so responsible... It would make posting on WP so much easier for me, after all....

Plenty of secular foodbanks here. It's pretty much our only remaining growth industry.

There is a huge difference between those atheists wanting to help the homeless and that woman who runs the soup kitchen.

The atheists want to help the homeless because they understand what it means to be human and wish to help a fellow human who is less fortunate than they are.

She wants to help the homeless because she thinks god will reward her.

Come, Come, surely you are aware that the only force holding humanity together are the morals taught to us by god, and the fear of retribution from this vengeful and vicious being if we break these rules.

Oh s**t my eye just offended me, best I pull it out.

Yeah, don't piss off that Yahwotsit fella, he's (or so my street-dwelling chums inform me) "proppa nawty innit".