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15 Feb 2014, 10:12 pm

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Mitt The Plastic Mormon :lol:


I concede the term "Mitt the Plastic Mormon" was introduced to WP by a sharper wit than my own, that belonging to ruveyn.


And for a while there in '12 this forum's left had it's collective drawers tied in knots over anything Mormon.


Is that directed at me or ruveyn? Or both?


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15 Feb 2014, 10:20 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Mitt The Plastic Mormon :lol:


I concede the term "Mitt the Plastic Mormon" was introduced to WP by a sharper wit than my own, that belonging to ruveyn.


And for a while there in '12 this forum's left had it's collective drawers tied in knots over anything Mormon.


Is that directed at me or ruveyn? Or both?


Directed at? It was an observation made by me during the Romney Crisis of 2012. There was also the Santorum Scare, the Bachmann Syndrome, and the Palin Conspiracy in 2011-12 but this was definitely the Romney Scare that followed since he was the only LDS'er.
BTW, I haven't even seen Ruveyn in this thread yet.


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16 Feb 2014, 12:50 am

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The Republicans only have themselves to blame for another Obama victory.


We agree on something. I'm just going to pause and marvel at this for a moment.

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Let it not be forgotten that the American south has achieved far more cultural and economic success since the end of Jim Crow and segregation, as equality has attracted much more goodwill from the rest of the country there, and all citizens have a greater chance at opportunity, black or white.


It's certainly true that Jim Crow and other government-enforced segregationist policies will forever be a stain on the history of the Democratic Party, but I think we should all be willing to forgive that by now. It's been fifty years. Anyway neither President Obama nor any other current Democratic leaders could have had anything to do with it, pro or con, so the issue is irrelevant to the current discussion.



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16 Feb 2014, 4:56 am

luanqibazao wrote:
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The Republicans only have themselves to blame for another Obama victory.


We agree on something. I'm just going to pause and marvel at this for a moment.

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Let it not be forgotten that the American south has achieved far more cultural and economic success since the end of Jim Crow and segregation, as equality has attracted much more goodwill from the rest of the country there, and all citizens have a greater chance at opportunity, black or white.


It's certainly true that Jim Crow and other government-enforced segregationist policies will forever be a stain on the history of the Democratic Party, but I think we should all be willing to forgive that by now. It's been fifty years. Anyway neither President Obama nor any other current Democratic leaders could have had anything to do with it, pro or con, so the issue is irrelevant to the current discussion.


The Democrats of the south in those days hardly represent the liberal philosophy of the Democrats of today. And it must be forgotten, as the national Democratic party embraced civil rights, Nixon and other Republicans had opened their arms to those white southerners looking for a new political party.


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16 Feb 2014, 7:46 am

I am sick of them all.

The problem is, getting elected has nothing to do with ability to govern. It is a pandering contest, with bribes.

As a Government Corporation, what it is, it is debt laden, overstaffed, income is declining, and it has huge unfunded pension costs. Their answer, only answer, is more debt.

War has been the only industry that can be controlled, but we are running out of people to kill.

More important, drought, it is warming, and there is nothing that can be done.

For the results of drought, check out northern Brazil. Fields too dry to plant, animals starving to death, 25 million tons of crops not produced, and no drinking water. California is becoming the same. The mountain west, and all across the southeast.

Each year the fires get bigger, spread to more areas.

Employment was in decline before trade agreements, 75% of our economy is main street, and it is closing.

Most of Americas wealth is in our paychecks and our houses. We have not had a raise in 40 years.

Without consumers, without labor producing income, there is no future.

It is worldwide, no one is doing well. some get by better than others, it is getting worse.

Food supplies are declining, population is growing.

In ten years we will call these, the good old days.



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16 Feb 2014, 8:08 am

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The Democrats of the south in those days hardly represent the liberal philosophy of the Democrats of today.

Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.



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16 Feb 2014, 10:12 am

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Remember to vote this November, send a message

We have to everything possible to stop Hilary from becoming president, if she wins we're all boned.


Is there anyone left in the Republican party with an IQ greater than his blood temperature?

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16 Feb 2014, 10:52 am

ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Remember to vote this November, send a message

We have to everything possible to stop Hilary from becoming president, if she wins we're all boned.


Is there anyone left in the Republican party with an IQ greater than his blood temperature?

ruveyn


Sadly, none that have a shot at getting nominated.

2012 was handed to Romney because he represented what the "old guard" Republicans wanted....not what CONSERVATIVES wanted. He was among the least desirable of candidates...representing more of the status quo rather than real solutions to the nation's problems.

Between that or Obama for another 4 years, most Conservatives just stopped caring.



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16 Feb 2014, 1:04 pm

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The Democrats of the south in those days hardly represent the liberal philosophy of the Democrats of today.

Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.


True. You are correct.


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16 Feb 2014, 1:49 pm

Shrapnel wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The Democrats of the south in those days hardly represent the liberal philosophy of the Democrats of today.

Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.


Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, the rapidly increasing income disparity has more and more people becoming cynical towards CEO's, bankers, and lobbyists.

Also, you don't seem to know what socialists and Marxists are.



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16 Feb 2014, 8:42 pm

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Between that or Obama for another 4 years, most Conservatives just stopped caring.


Barry Goldwater was the last decent Republican nominated to run for President. That was in 1964. He was years ahead of his time.

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16 Feb 2014, 9:09 pm

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Too bad he was beat out by that blithering idiot Johnson. I read somewhere that Goldwater wanted to settle the Vietnam War with tactical nukes. :twisted:


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16 Feb 2014, 9:18 pm

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Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.


Damn, I'd like to see the fits you rightwing extremists would go in if an actual left labour or socialist party came to America and started winning House Seats. Maybe the hysterical, "country ending" complaints from the far right would stop if they could actually see the Centrecrats in proper context.


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16 Feb 2014, 9:21 pm

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Our economy is broken beyond repair. We are printing money to maintain the illusion of economic progress, but there's nothing backing it, and we could never redeem all the currency pumped into the economy. I sometimes wonder if people aren't just ushered into a dark room during their first week, shown how bad the situation is, and told that the best they can do is try and grab as much as they can for themselves and their constituents until the train runs off the cliff someday. It would certainly explain the "head-inserted-in-anus" way they seem to operate and spend money we don't have to spend.


Yeah, I'm sure hyperinflation is coming any minute now... :roll:


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16 Feb 2014, 9:32 pm

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Shrapnel wrote:
Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.


Damn, I'd like to see the fits you rightwing extremists would go in if an actual left labour or socialist party came to America and started winning House Seats. Maybe the hysterical, "country ending" complaints from the far right would stop if they could actually see the Centrecrats in proper context.


Hey, if democracy fails us there's always other methods. :D
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16 Feb 2014, 10:12 pm

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Too bad he was beat out by that blithering idiot Johnson. I read somewhere that Goldwater wanted to settle the Vietnam War with tactical nukes. :twisted:


Not only did Landslide Lyndon not settle the Vietnam War, he got 60,000 Americans killed for nothing. Lyndon Johnson was a disaster for the United States.

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