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18 Mar 2014, 2:07 pm

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What is does say is that the the individual in question has no legal right to be in Denmark at this time, and that she will have to wait 6 months before she can return to Denmark.

It sounds like the Danish authorities are right to kick her out of the country.

Honestly, I consider *a single case* rather irrelevant.

In 2013, Denmark issued residential permits to 64,494 foreigners (5,511 were family unifications as the mentioned case).

One person does not a general picture make...



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18 Mar 2014, 2:07 pm

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I always thought that Denmark was one of the progressive countries that actually had human rights.

It is.

This presentation of Denmark as a cauldron of Evil Fascism of Evil Fascists is the product of one WP poster who has a tendency to paint everyone who disagrees with his political position as Evil Fascists of Evil Fascism...

Wait... isn't dragging ill people out of the hospitals to deport them something that is a fascist tendency?

Is it not cruel/evil to do so?

I think it is. If you don't please argue in favor of dragging ill people out the hospitals who cannot survive on their own, and deporting them.
Please defend your position.

The link you provided does not document any claim that she is unable to survive on her own (a short reference to *part* of a statement from a psychiatrist is not *evidence*). What is does say is that the the individual in question has no legal right to be in Denmark at this time, and that she will have to wait 6 months before she can return to Denmark.

Seriously, it is bad form to misrepresent news written in Danish on an English-speaking website where the vast majority of members lack proficiency in Danish, and thus are unable to check the validity of your claims...


You forgot to mention that part of the video also said that the law says that there have to be granted exemptions to this rule when there is documentated need for exemptions from the rule.

There has been presented arguments against that she is unable to take care of herself.
This is validated by a specialist, an expert in that particular field.

If the authorities believe this is not enough, or outright wrong, they would at least have to present counter-arguments.

They didn't. All they did was say "we ignore the words from the psychiatrist".

This is very VERY common in Denmark, also towards Danes. People can have 10 maybe 20 specialist experts saying that one is permanently without ability to work, and work tests will worsen their condition.
Yet the authorities completely ignore them.

Ignoring something does NOT constitute a counter-evidence!

The fact that the authorities of Denmark routinely and quite often and ON PURPOSE ignore documentation from specialists is enough for me to say that the Authorities of Denmark are cruel.
And that anyone supporting these authorities, are cruel too. Which means that the vast majority of the Danes are cruel, according to me.

I did not present this case from TV2 for the matter of discussing immigration.
This was, instead, an example of Danish authorities ignoring documentation without presenting ANY counter-arguments at all.

Might is right in Denmark.
The authorities don't need to stick to the documentation. They can make their decisions regardless of the documentation presented in any case.

This is what I wanted to discuss as part of my claims of the lack of human rights in Denmark.



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18 Mar 2014, 2:22 pm

The decision to issue (or not issue) a residential permit is not a medical decision in Denmark. It is a legal decision.



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18 Mar 2014, 2:24 pm

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The decision to issue (or not issue) a residential permit is not a medical decision in Denmark. It is a legal decision.


According to the law, as shown in the video, there HAS to be made exemptions, ie. if medical documentation suggests so.
They are breaking the law, and getting away with it.

They get away with it because nobody can do anything about it, except those who broke the law.

The Danish Justice is like having the wolves guard the sheep.

Running a legal case against this, will not be won. The judges don't give a damn about presenting arguments either why they reject the appeal.

A law is worth nothing when might is right.



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18 Mar 2014, 2:59 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
The decision to issue (or not issue) a residential permit is not a medical decision in Denmark. It is a legal decision.

According to the law, as shown in the video, there HAS to be made exemptions, ie. if medical documentation suggests so.
They are breaking the law, and getting away with it.

They get away with it because nobody can do anything about it, except those who broke the law.

The Danish Justice is like having the wolves guard the sheep.

Running a legal case against this, will not be won. The judges don't give a damn about presenting arguments either why they reject the appeal.

A law is worth nothing when might is right.

*sigh*

http://udln.dk/Lovgivning.aspx

Now... (1) What law has been violated? And (2) even *if* the law had been violated in that specific case, how can this justify painting with a broad brush about the "Fascism" of Denmark? As I have stated before, 64,494 persons were granted residential permits in Denmark in 2013...