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05 Sep 2015, 4:20 pm

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Wait just a minute here! I belong to Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption Church and I resent the very idea that we must pay taxes...


Ah, a John Oliver fan. So am I. :lol:


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05 Sep 2015, 4:25 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
pcuser wrote:
Wait just a minute here! I belong to Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption Church and I resent the very idea that we must pay taxes...


Ah, a John Oliver fan. So am I. :lol:

Gotta try to laugh sometimes. Especially when things feel grim...



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05 Sep 2015, 4:31 pm

I'll expand on my original statement.

Churches should pay taxes, and should file for exemptions for their charitable work just like any other entity.



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05 Sep 2015, 4:38 pm

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I'll expand on my original statement.

Churches should pay taxes, and should file for exemptions for their charitable work just like any other entity.

The only problem with that idea is they would call everything they did charity. That's quite the minefield...



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05 Sep 2015, 4:43 pm

pcuser wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
I'll expand on my original statement.

Churches should pay taxes, and should file for exemptions for their charitable work just like any other entity.

The only problem with that idea is they would call everything they did charity. That's quite the minefield...


So? Under the law they have to prove it.



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05 Sep 2015, 4:51 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
pcuser wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
I'll expand on my original statement.

Churches should pay taxes, and should file for exemptions for their charitable work just like any other entity.

The only problem with that idea is they would call everything they did charity. That's quite the minefield...


So? Under the law they have to prove it.

We would have to define that. I do, however, agree we should tax them. I was half in jest with my comment that they would claim everything...



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05 Sep 2015, 4:55 pm

Nobody should pay taxes.



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05 Sep 2015, 5:02 pm

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Nobody should pay taxes.

Delusional...



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05 Sep 2015, 5:06 pm

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Nobody should pay taxes.


Lots of luck then in financing a standing army... or police protection... or fire protection... or infrastructure... or social security, etc.


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05 Sep 2015, 5:10 pm

You don't think voluntary donations would suffice?



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05 Sep 2015, 5:50 pm

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You don't think voluntary donations would suffice?


Only in a libertarian fantasy world.


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05 Sep 2015, 6:39 pm

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You don't think voluntary donations would suffice?


Only in a libertarian fantasy world.

My thoughts exactly. Though you stated them better than I would have.



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05 Sep 2015, 6:41 pm

pcuser wrote:
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You don't think voluntary donations would suffice?


Only in a libertarian fantasy world.

My thoughts exactly. Though you stated them better than I would have.


Thank you for your kind words. 8)


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05 Sep 2015, 7:44 pm

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You don't think voluntary donations would suffice?
Only in a libertarian fantasy world.

It would, of course, be impossible to run a welfare state on voluntary donations.



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05 Sep 2015, 9:03 pm

Humanaut wrote:
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You don't think voluntary donations would suffice?
Only in a libertarian fantasy world.

It would, of course, be impossible to run a welfare state on voluntary donations.


Or any state that actually works, as a matter of fact.


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05 Sep 2015, 9:11 pm

Involuntarism rules.