How should I react to America's grim future?
What's grim about America's future exactly? All we can do is stay the same course we've been on or move towards being more humanitarian. America isn't going to get any worse. We've already fought several genocidal wars/committed ethnic cleansings. The worst Trump will do is make the country more self sufficient for 4 years. I really doubt he'll try to eradicate ethnic minorities. We might fight a few more interventionist wars/regime changes, but that's nothing new. The banks already own the country so it isn't going to get much worse.
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*almost no upward mobility for anybody not already gifted and middle-class, compared to most other western nations-
*no affordable health care under any GOP administration
*decaying infrastructure [flint was just ONE example out of many!] with no PTB willing to pay for repairs
*massive unemployment due to technological obsolescence/traitorous CEOs shipping jobs overseas
*increasingly authoritarian PTB, further reduction of democratic levers of power for anybody not middle/upper-class
*increasing scapegoating of minorities/poor
*practically no efforts at insulating the utility grid against a "WHEN not IF" terrorist attack or x-flare
*increasing financial instability
*systemic corruption [top to bottom] at unsustainable levels
*exponentially increasing gap between rich and everybody else.
-It's always been that way in the US; in reality, the middle class is being eroded and people are being thrown down to lower classes with the very wealthy staying very wealthy in the cities. This is more a leftist outcome with the latter
-How much is health insurance there? It's like 80 buckaroos a fortnight here for middle of the road coverage. If similar, then pretty much everyone can afford that in the US. I think Trump supports universal social healthcare, but I'd have to verify that
-Trump wants to bring back "made in America" rather than "in China"; that should fix the infrastructure and jobs if people are willing to give up their cheap Chinese stuff and do some manual labor; he wants to tax Chinese imports to make it cheaper for "made in America"; I think he's the only one that can really help the infrastructure and job markets in the US. Everyone else wants to do the same old
-I don't see minorities or the poor being scapegoated at this time; rather, constant attacks on the middle class that so happens to be white with constant racist attacks of "white privilege" and "blaming white people for all ills"; this is from my observations as an outsider. It's the opposite as far as I can tell, and minorities are getting inordinate amounts of excuses. Case in point: Mike Brown and the whole BLM movement that started over that
-Valid point, though it's the same everywhere; I doubt terrorists could really damage power infrastructure to a serious extent. Besides, people can live with power going out for a week or so. It's fun
-Financial problems don't really exist in the first world (coming from someone that's very, very poor), but instability is always there and always will be; I don't see them getting worst or better if nothing changes
-Citation of corruption
-That's because the middle class is being eroded in the US. When you make it harder to be the middle class for everyone, you end up with the common man and the wealthy. More of "your" leftist policies won't help this. You need decent labor jobs in manufacturing local products that give a decent wage for decent work. Relying on China for cheap stuff is one reason this is happening
You guys need a "working class" that gives hard work for decent money. So, nearly everyone is able to hit that middle of the road class. It also provides a feeling of achievement, accomplishment and pride.
As a matter of fact, the poor and disabled are constantly being demonized as slackers and fakers. It's popular to cut the social safety net and show those evil poor people. The fact is, too many people won't recognize who is really robbing them, and it's not the poor needing government help, or immigrants (legal or illegal) filling jobs, or workers demanding higher pay and benefits, but the super rich and the corporations that have been siphoning America's jobs and wealth to places like China for the sake of paying less for labor. And America's decline will never be stopped until we all recognize who the enemy really is.
By the way, Trump's clothing lines are produced in China, by workers paid starvation wages. Not only is Trump a blowhard, but he's also a hypocrite.
GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP!
So, I imagine if his use of Chinese labor and markets doesn't bother you, despite all his talk of making America great again, then you probably also don't mind his contradictory stand on the David Duke endorsement.
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Haven't you figured it out yet? Trump's entire appeal to people like Angela is how much people like you hate him; voting Trump is like giving every liberal in the country a giant middle finger.
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*almost no upward mobility for anybody not already gifted and middle-class, compared to most other western nations-
*no affordable health care under any GOP administration
*decaying infrastructure [flint was just ONE example out of many!] with no PTB willing to pay for repairs
*massive unemployment due to technological obsolescence/traitorous CEOs shipping jobs overseas
*increasingly authoritarian PTB, further reduction of democratic levers of power for anybody not middle/upper-class
*increasing scapegoating of minorities/poor
*practically no efforts at insulating the utility grid against a "WHEN not IF" terrorist attack or x-flare
*increasing financial instability
*systemic corruption [top to bottom] at unsustainable levels
*exponentially increasing gap between rich and everybody else.
-It's always been that way in the US; in reality, the middle class is being eroded and people are being thrown down to lower classes with the very wealthy staying very wealthy in the cities. This is more a leftist outcome with the latter
-How much is health insurance there? It's like 80 buckaroos a fortnight here for middle of the road coverage. If similar, then pretty much everyone can afford that in the US. I think Trump supports universal social healthcare, but I'd have to verify that
-Trump wants to bring back "made in America" rather than "in China"; that should fix the infrastructure and jobs if people are willing to give up their cheap Chinese stuff and do some manual labor; he wants to tax Chinese imports to make it cheaper for "made in America"; I think he's the only one that can really help the infrastructure and job markets in the US. Everyone else wants to do the same old
-I don't see minorities or the poor being scapegoated at this time; rather, constant attacks on the middle class that so happens to be white with constant racist attacks of "white privilege" and "blaming white people for all ills"; this is from my observations as an outsider. It's the opposite as far as I can tell, and minorities are getting inordinate amounts of excuses. Case in point: Mike Brown and the whole BLM movement that started over that
-Valid point, though it's the same everywhere; I doubt terrorists could really damage power infrastructure to a serious extent. Besides, people can live with power going out for a week or so. It's fun
-Financial problems don't really exist in the first world (coming from someone that's very, very poor), but instability is always there and always will be; I don't see them getting worst or better if nothing changes
-Citation of corruption
-That's because the middle class is being eroded in the US. When you make it harder to be the middle class for everyone, you end up with the common man and the wealthy. More of "your" leftist policies won't help this. You need decent labor jobs in manufacturing local products that give a decent wage for decent work. Relying on China for cheap stuff is one reason this is happening
You guys need a "working class" that gives hard work for decent money. So, nearly everyone is able to hit that middle of the road class. It also provides a feeling of achievement, accomplishment and pride.
As a matter of fact, the poor and disabled are constantly being demonized as slackers and fakers. It's popular to cut the social safety net and show those evil poor people. The fact is, too many people won't recognize who is really robbing them, and it's not the poor needing government help, or immigrants (legal or illegal) filling jobs, or workers demanding higher pay and benefits, but the super rich and the corporations that have been siphoning America's jobs and wealth to places like China for the sake of paying less for labor. And America's decline will never be stopped until we all recognize who the enemy really is.
By the way, Trump's clothing lines are produced in China, by workers paid starvation wages. Not only is Trump a blowhard, but he's also a hypocrite.
GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP!
So, I imagine if his use of Chinese labor and markets doesn't bother you, despite all his talk of making America great again, then you probably also don't mind his contradictory stand on the David Duke endorsement.
https://imgflip.com/memegeneratorGO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP!
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Darn, I flunked.
Haven't you figured it out yet? Trump's entire appeal to people like Angela is how much people like you hate him; voting Trump is like giving every liberal in the country a giant middle finger.
Partly true, the other part is I actually do like Trump.
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
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Haven't you figured it out yet? Trump's entire appeal to people like Angela is how much people like you hate him; voting Trump is like giving every liberal in the country a giant middle finger.
Really great reason to risk wrecking the country by putting a narcissistic buffoon in charge.
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Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
*almost no upward mobility for anybody not already gifted and middle-class, compared to most other western nations-
*no affordable health care under any GOP administration
*decaying infrastructure [flint was just ONE example out of many!] with no PTB willing to pay for repairs
*massive unemployment due to technological obsolescence/traitorous CEOs shipping jobs overseas
*increasingly authoritarian PTB, further reduction of democratic levers of power for anybody not middle/upper-class
*increasing scapegoating of minorities/poor
*practically no efforts at insulating the utility grid against a "WHEN not IF" terrorist attack or x-flare
*increasing financial instability
*systemic corruption [top to bottom] at unsustainable levels
*exponentially increasing gap between rich and everybody else.
-It's always been that way in the US; in reality, the middle class is being eroded and people are being thrown down to lower classes with the very wealthy staying very wealthy in the cities. This is more a leftist outcome with the latter
-How much is health insurance there? It's like 80 buckaroos a fortnight here for middle of the road coverage. If similar, then pretty much everyone can afford that in the US. I think Trump supports universal social healthcare, but I'd have to verify that
-Trump wants to bring back "made in America" rather than "in China"; that should fix the infrastructure and jobs if people are willing to give up their cheap Chinese stuff and do some manual labor; he wants to tax Chinese imports to make it cheaper for "made in America"; I think he's the only one that can really help the infrastructure and job markets in the US. Everyone else wants to do the same old
-I don't see minorities or the poor being scapegoated at this time; rather, constant attacks on the middle class that so happens to be white with constant racist attacks of "white privilege" and "blaming white people for all ills"; this is from my observations as an outsider. It's the opposite as far as I can tell, and minorities are getting inordinate amounts of excuses. Case in point: Mike Brown and the whole BLM movement that started over that
-Valid point, though it's the same everywhere; I doubt terrorists could really damage power infrastructure to a serious extent. Besides, people can live with power going out for a week or so. It's fun
-Financial problems don't really exist in the first world (coming from someone that's very, very poor), but instability is always there and always will be; I don't see them getting worst or better if nothing changes
-Citation of corruption
-That's because the middle class is being eroded in the US. When you make it harder to be the middle class for everyone, you end up with the common man and the wealthy. More of "your" leftist policies won't help this. You need decent labor jobs in manufacturing local products that give a decent wage for decent work. Relying on China for cheap stuff is one reason this is happening
You guys need a "working class" that gives hard work for decent money. So, nearly everyone is able to hit that middle of the road class. It also provides a feeling of achievement, accomplishment and pride.
As a matter of fact, the poor and disabled are constantly being demonized as slackers and fakers. It's popular to cut the social safety net and show those evil poor people. The fact is, too many people won't recognize who is really robbing them, and it's not the poor needing government help, or immigrants (legal or illegal) filling jobs, or workers demanding higher pay and benefits, but the super rich and the corporations that have been siphoning America's jobs and wealth to places like China for the sake of paying less for labor. And America's decline will never be stopped until we all recognize who the enemy really is.
By the way, Trump's clothing lines are produced in China, by workers paid starvation wages. Not only is Trump a blowhard, but he's also a hypocrite.
GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP!
So, I imagine if his use of Chinese labor and markets doesn't bother you, despite all his talk of making America great again, then you probably also don't mind his contradictory stand on the David Duke endorsement.
https://imgflip.com/memegeneratorGO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP!
I can fight fire with fire: GO BERNIE! GO Bernie! GO Bernie!
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I didn't say it was a great reason, I just said it's a reason. Notice how people are essentially using his name as a taunt, like chanting "USA!" at foreigners.
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Woo Hoo!! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP!
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
Yea, I actually contribute money to my candidates, did it in 2012 too. Back then it came out of my cigarette budget. I really don't like the idea that I'm buying into a democracy, but that's the status quo and I'd like to think that politicians would look to the millions of votes + campaign contributions instead of a few larger contributions + implied favors down the road.
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I didn't say it was a great reason, I just said it's a reason. Notice how people are essentially using his name as a taunt, like chanting "USA!" at foreigners.
Then say what it really is: a terrible reason.
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Trump is certainly better than a tyrant that got soldiers killed, showed no remorse for it and also compromised national security for her foreign donors. Anyone who votes for Hilary is a delusional idiot. Honestly, there can't be a worse possible candidate, unless Kim Jong Un is allowed to run as POTUS.
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