Is Shariah law really such an awful thing?

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23 Jul 2016, 10:52 am

Barchan wrote:

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America is a paradise compared to Saudi Arab.

I don't support Saudi Arabia's interpretation of Islamic laws. Wahhabis can go F themselves.

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Caught shoplifting a gum? let's cut out your tongue that will give you something to chew on..

Muhammad (ﷺ) never encouraged dismemberment as a punishment for minor theft.

I know lol, the last one was a joke.

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23 Jul 2016, 11:02 am

The worst there is in the U.S. are the bathroom laws and abortion being restricted to varying degrees, and even then, it's only in a few states.

In the more conservative Islamic countries, alcohol is often difficult to find or banned outright, women's rights are heavily restricted, and LGBT people have no legal recognition, let alone marriage equality.

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23 Jul 2016, 12:05 pm

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Another interesting consequence of disproportionally harsh punishments is that they make it more dangerous to accidentally witness crime. If you run into a thief in a situation in which he can easily kill you, he might as well do it, rather than let you live and take the risk that you'll give him away and probably doom him to starvation when he can't keep stealing with one hand. Perhaps he'll be sentenced to death for murder—if he's caught—but he may well decide he's got nothing left to lose.

That's a good point, actually. It's the same reason I don't support the death penalty for rapists, which is common in many Muslim countries.

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23 Jul 2016, 12:10 pm

Trolllolol topic I think.

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23 Jul 2016, 12:25 pm

Yeah you steal but what if you were stealing to feed your family? Not all thieves are criminals, they are just people like us who hit rough times in their life and they got desperate. Anyone would commit a crime if they were in such a situation, it's called survival. Look at what happened during Katrina. Stranded, no food and water so people were peeing in unfamiliar places and breaking into stores and stealing necessities such as diapers for their kids, water, food. The ones who were stealing things like electronics, jewelry is a different story. But I don't believe in torture.

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23 Jul 2016, 12:25 pm

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The police in the UK don't usually carry guns, right?

I remember seeing George Carlin talk about that. If the UK police are chasing someone, they will yell "Stop! or I'll say Stop again!"

I miss good ole George

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23 Jul 2016, 12:40 pm

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I don't agree with a lot of Shariah law, but then it's not like America's legal system is perfect either.

"Oohh the cops shot and killed yet another black guy", well he shouldn't have been suspected of carrying then, problem solved.

The UK isn't much better either, but at least we have equality laws, no capital punishment, and our police don't kill anyone (except for incredibly rare and extreme circumstances).

At least here homosexuals aren't getting stoned on the street, women aren't forced to be covered from head to toe, In cases of rape the rapist is persecuted rather than the woman being blamed and 'honor killed' I mean sure our legal system isn't perfect but I think it's quite a step up comapred to Sharia Law.

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23 Jul 2016, 12:50 pm

There's another less obvious reason why Sharia is bad. Laws made by governments can change. Move with the times. Have some flexibility to them. Sharia law is inflexible. It's religious law. It will never change, it will never evolve, it is absolute.

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23 Jul 2016, 12:54 pm

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In cases of rape the rapist is persecuted rather than the woman being blamed and 'honor killed' I mean sure our legal system isn't perfect but I think it's quite a step up comapred to Sharia Law.

If biased western media is anything to go by, you'd think Muslim countries only punish the victim of rape, and never charge the perpetrator. The truth is that rape is a very serious crime in Islam, and punishable by death in many countries.

Now the question is, how often does a rapist actually see punishment in these societies? Well, it's probably about as common as in western countries.

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23 Jul 2016, 12:59 pm

Barchan wrote:

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In cases of rape the rapist is persecuted rather than the woman being blamed and 'honor killed' I mean sure our legal system isn't perfect but I think it's quite a step up comapred to Sharia Law.

Even if that were true, which I very much doubt, we don't punish the victim in the West.

What are you trying to do? Say Sharia is better or it just isn't as bad as it is made out to be?

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23 Jul 2016, 1:08 pm

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What are you trying to do? Say Sharia is better or it just isn't as bad as it is made out to be?

The latter.

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23 Jul 2016, 1:12 pm

Barchan wrote:

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What are you trying to do? Say Sharia is better or it just isn't as bad as it is made out to be?

The latter.

Why?

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23 Jul 2016, 1:30 pm

Drake wrote:

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What are you trying to do? Say Sharia is better or it just isn't as bad as it is made out to be?

The latter.

Why?

Because I'm Muslim and it saddens me when people try to portray Islamic laws as scary and backwards.

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23 Jul 2016, 1:35 pm

Oh... Has anyone mentioned the support for - or even obligation to perform - Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) in Sharia yet, BTW?

Might as well be thorough, while we're discussing the subject.

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23 Jul 2016, 1:45 pm

Barchan wrote:

Drake wrote:

Barchan wrote:

Drake wrote:

What are you trying to do? Say Sharia is better or it just isn't as bad as it is made out to be?

The latter.

Why?

Because I'm Muslim and it saddens me when people try to portray Islamic laws as scary and backwards.

You're a Muslim. It's designed for Muslims. It isn't designed for the rest of us. That's the problem in a nutshell really.

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23 Jul 2016, 1:47 pm

Drake wrote:

You're a Muslim. It's designed for Muslims. It isn't designed for the rest of us. That's the problem in a nutshell really.

it's still curious though. because it's designed for muslim men. isn't the op female?

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