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13 Apr 2018, 8:13 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

Methinks he actually left because this site is becoming more liberal.

I know, I promised to leave, but I simply cannot allow nonsense like this to go unchallenged. Using this site is supremely frustrating at times, and I would not be at all surprised if this particular message also gets mangled somehow (but I hope it doesn't).

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When liberals rely on logic and principles...

Don't make me laugh. People who like to label themselves as "liberals" (whatever the hell that means) tend to lose them.

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

That's how we will prevent Trump's second term ... and prevent the rise of alt-right worldwide.

There is no such thing as the "alt-right", it is a "liberal" myth. People that are labelled as such by the Ultra-Left are simply concerned citizens who do not want to see the Islamisation of their nation and the destruction of their cultures. That is not "racist", it is simply normal.

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13 Apr 2018, 8:20 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

Did Lintar just bail on us?

PleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePlease :mrgreen:

Mikah wrote:

Something about Pepe's post triggered the captcha, that's why I cut his quote.

Mess with the Pepe...
There's gunna be problems... :mrgreen:

Now....

Who is next? :mrgreen:

No, I've decided I'm not going anywhere! You're stuck with me. I will admit that I hate the way this site has become almost as decrepit as Detroit, but someone needs to challenge the BS that "liberals" spout here. "Conservatives" (i.e. gun fanatics) are not much better, but at least they are consistent in their insanity.

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13 Apr 2018, 8:29 pm

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the whole revanchist attitude of the German people after ww1 played a big part in Hitlers rebuilding of Germany.

"Revanchist"?
Germany was humiliated and its economy was destroyed by the unjust Versailles Treaty inforced by those who were jealous of Germany's growing dominance at the time in Europe...
Revenge wasn't the prevailing mindset, surely...
It was a case of German national dignity...

Putin is manipulating the Russian people the same way...

I can definitely see the similarities between Hitler and Putin in that both gained political devotion by restoring Germany's and Russia's dignity and pride, respectively.

Didn't Trump do the same thing? Are we going to label as Hitler any politician aspiring for the top job who promises to "make (nation X) great again"? Do we really want to go down that road? Isn't this all rather childish (and yes, I know, calling such behaviour "childish" will once again place me at the bottom of Pepe's silly pyramid).

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13 Apr 2018, 8:43 pm

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Detroit? You mean the city that is suffering because of racism and right-wing economics?

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"Conservatives" (i.e. gun fanatics) are not much better, but at least they are consistent in their insanity.

To be fair, Orthodox Marxists are gun fanatics too. I don't hate them because they have a non-traditional solution to the problem of gun violence, whereas the conservatives and "libertarians" have taken a stance of "Oh well ... gun murders happen. Suck it up."

Another Thing: Conservatives are consistent in their insanity? The neocons usually want to avenge the victims of 9/11 ... by killing more people than 9/11 killed. They also support war and capitalism ... while worshipping a pacifist with socialist leanings. If they want both war and religion, why don't they just worship Odin?

To be fair, consistency is rare in the left, but in the right it is entirely absent.

Anyways, I'm glad that you aren't leaving because I think that it is important for liberals to learn how to argue properly.

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13 Apr 2018, 9:04 pm

Lintar wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Pepe wrote:

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the whole revanchist attitude of the German people after ww1 played a big part in Hitlers rebuilding of Germany.

I can definitely see the similarities between Hitler and Putin in that both gained political devotion by restoring Germany's and Russia's dignity and pride, respectively.

I don't trust leaders who want to restore a country's "dignity and pride". I may be a leftist, but I'm not the sort of leftist who is into touchy-feely crap. I want concrete results. The right-wing concepts of "dignity and pride" are meaningless, just like the left-wing concepts of "love" and "open-mindedness".

If you feel that your country is "losing dignity and pride", it's probably just you who is losing dignity and pride. The best way to get over that is to play a video game that has jiggling anime boobs in it. You'll feel better in no time.

Additionally, the phrase "Make America great again." implies that America was better at some point in the past. In reality, America is brutal today, and it was even worse in the past. Nostalgia is almost never a good thing for American politics. Instead, Americans should recognize that the Obama years were great ... but America could be even greater it were run by a real leftist like Bernie.

Progress will make America great. Nostalgia will only remind people of how awful the past really was.

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13 Apr 2018, 9:23 pm

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Additionally, the phrase "Make America great again." implies that America was better at some point in the past. In reality, America is brutal today, and it was even worse in the past. Nostalgia is almost never a good thing for American politics.

The same can be said about most nations I guess. People become nostalgic because, all other considerations aside, their lives were generally simpler when they were in school and didn't need to worry about things like death and taxes.

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Instead, Americans should recognise that the Obama years were great ... but America could be even greater it were run by a real leftist like Bernie.

Yes, I also believe that had Bernie been given the chance to challenge Trump he would have easily won. People didn't want yet another Clinton, and the way they (the Democrats) sabotaged his candidacy was just utterly disgraceful. It didn't require "Russian hackers" to guarantee a Trump presidency. The idiocy of the Democratic Party ensured that.

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Progress will make America great. Nostalgia will only remind people of how awful the past really was.

Maybe. We'll see.

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13 Apr 2018, 11:03 pm

^^^
The good old days - - they were terrible.

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14 Apr 2018, 3:46 pm

Lintar wrote:

(and yes, I know, calling such behaviour "childish" will once again place me at the bottom of Pepe's silly pyramid).

It's not my pyramid...<pout>

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14 Apr 2018, 4:31 pm

The right wing have become more anti war than the left. The left have more important issues than a potential WWIII, gender neutral bathrooms.

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14 Apr 2018, 4:34 pm

Every new enemy is "Hitler" and you can either be Neville Chamberlain and not blow up their country or you can be Churchill. It's getting boring now. Same propaganda every single time. Fake stories and pretending to care about children. And "weapons of mass destruction". If anyone falls for it they are beyond help.

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14 Apr 2018, 4:35 pm

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The right wing have become more anti war than the left. The left have more important issues than a potential WWIII, gender neutral bathrooms.

That's what corporate "liberalism" is all about.

Gender neutral bathrooms don't threaten the corporate elite. Peace does.

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14 Apr 2018, 4:41 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

The right wing have become more anti war than the left. The left have more important issues than a potential WWIII, gender neutral bathrooms.

That's what corporate "liberalism" is all about.

Gender neutral bathrooms don't threaten the corporate elite. Peace does.

Yep.

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14 Apr 2018, 4:45 pm

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Apparently some people don't realize just how powerful Hitler was. The modern world is not comparable to the world of WW2.

Most of the enemies of the West are weak and puny compared to Hitler. For example, ISIS is pathetic. That's why they just keep failing.

Putin, much like Hitler, is extremely powerful ... but Putin is not quite as loony as Hitler. As a result, Putin doesn't need to be taken out.

Of course, if the US government really wanted to stop Putin, they would be funding Russian anarcho-feminist organisations. Those are the real worst enemies of the Putinator.

Of course, the US government isn't going to fund Russian anarchists because that would be bad for business. *sigh*

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15 Apr 2018, 5:39 pm

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Anyways, I'm glad that you aren't leaving because I think that it is important for liberals to learn how to argue properly.

If I understand what you mean: Ouch!...

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