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Why are you happy or unhappy?
I'm happy due to my external environment 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
I'm happy due to my internal environment 36%  36%  [ 9 ]
I'm unhappy due to my external environment 32%  32%  [ 8 ]
I'm unhappy due to my internal environment 20%  20%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 25

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08 Aug 2007, 11:53 pm

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But doesn't your external environment affect your internal environment and in response your internal environment affects your external environment?

My personal experience has been that having or not having what I want (external) has no effect on my happiness. I can have what I want and be unhappy, and not have what I want and be happy. Not having what I need is a different story.


Agreed, I'm a lot like that myself and its hard to define what really controls it - self talk, shifts in just how things seem to be going, my chemical state, I think there are a lot of things that go into that

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My personal experience is that I tend to radiate whatever I have going on inside. Hence the expression, "If you want to change the world, change yourself."


That's a very difficult trick for me to pull just because all too often I'm very analytical of myself, almost too brutally honest, and people don't care what the rationel is, they just see a vibe and react to it - even knowing that still doesn't make it easier to just take the leap and feel good to feel good.



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08 Aug 2007, 11:56 pm

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I have often thought that Aspies who are extraverts must have a tougher time than introverted Aspies because it would probably be more uncomfortable for an extravert to experience negativity from society. Hostility from the outer environment, a sense of non-belonging maybe, because they/we feel not fully accepted by society, as society generally is fairly intolerant of people who are perceived as 'different'. At least for an introvert, so long as we see ourselves as basically OK, it doesn't damage our sense of self-worth as much. Introverts don't invest quite so much importance in the opinions of the collective, the outside world.


I think it can go quite the opposite as well - extroverts might get better reception just because of the vibe their putting off, constant energy or spontaneity, while the introvert could be horridly analytical and seething over what they see of their reality, of their own ability to control of change things, and the fact that they aren't appropriately wired for an extroverts world. You have to remember as well that true introverts are highly aware of self and self-analyze a lot, many extroverts are lucky enough to have much less of an internal world.



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09 Aug 2007, 12:52 am

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Ha the debate of the nature of such an existence and the debate over his existence are one and the same, ridiculous. :lol:

Not at all. God(s) exist(s), even if as nothing more than (a) mental construct(s). He/they exist(s) in the minds of millions of people. This is self-evident. The appropriate debate is whether He/they exist(s) as anything more substantial than that. (Not that there's anything insubstantial about mental constructs. :wink: )


Hmm...presuming that even these exist.
And that there is anything other than them.



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09 Aug 2007, 5:37 am

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The results are fascinating. Those who are happy have more frequently claimed internal reasons while those who are unhappy have more frequently claimed external reasons.

Imagine that.

For another interesting statistic, it has been shown that optimistic people are happier than realistic people despite their lower accuracy at predicting outcomes.


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09 Aug 2007, 7:07 pm

im happy because i quit, finally drinking alcohol. i seriously have no desire to ever drink again. i handled the situation pretty much the same way when i was addicted to cocaine, it took a few tries and awile but i just got sick and tired of being sick and tired. i always have to hit the bottom before i want to do anything so thanks to that i know for a fact i'll never drink ever again. instead i'll spend the leftover money that i have on sportscards :D


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10 Aug 2007, 2:48 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Starr wrote:
I have often thought that Aspies who are extraverts must have a tougher time than introverted Aspies because it would probably be more uncomfortable for an extravert to experience negativity from society. Hostility from the outer environment, a sense of non-belonging maybe, because they/we feel not fully accepted by society, as society generally is fairly intolerant of people who are perceived as 'different'. At least for an introvert, so long as we see ourselves as basically OK, it doesn't damage our sense of self-worth as much. Introverts don't invest quite so much importance in the opinions of the collective, the outside world.


I think it can go quite the opposite as well - extroverts might get better reception just because of the vibe their putting off, constant energy or spontaneity, while the introvert could be horridly analytical and seething over what they see of their reality, of their own ability to control of change things, and the fact that they aren't appropriately wired for an extroverts world. You have to remember as well that true introverts are highly aware of self and self-analyze a lot, many extroverts are lucky enough to have much less of an internal world.


i think i'm an extrovert with the self-analysing non-stop in my head, extrovert cause i do talk to people whenever they cross an interest of mine. it's their movement, voice or activity that attracts me. at the same time i'm also introvert cause if this attraction isn't there i just don't talk and am more in a mode of 'waiting' or more probably drawing, reading or something.
as for the extrovert part i agree with you both starr and techstep(*), it does get me into uncomfortable situations (people get mad, or even agressive) but at other times it does give me interesting contacts and a lot of people do approve of the fact that i'll easily be active.

(funny to read you both in one post :D)



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10 Aug 2007, 2:54 am

I'm great again, since I've gotten out of the hospital I've really improved. Wonder how much just being able to take a walk can do for your mood. Back in the hospital I was slowly mentally falling apart and I am sure another week and I would have gone insane.



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10 Aug 2007, 3:06 am

I didn't ask for these disorders, and I certainly don't deserve them. People let me down. I get exhausted of life.


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10 Aug 2007, 3:09 am

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I didn't ask for these disorders, and I certainly don't deserve them. People let me down. I get exhausted of life.


Don't worry too much, you just have a brief stint here. You'll eventually get your death and release from exsistence, a long dreamless nap. Life has a limit for a reason.



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10 Aug 2007, 3:26 am

Flagg wrote:
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I didn't ask for these disorders, and I certainly don't deserve them. People let me down. I get exhausted of life.


Don't worry too much, you just have a brief stint here. You'll eventually get your death and release from exsistence, a long dreamless nap. Life has a limit for a reason.


Comforting, yet saddening that it is only death that we have to look forward to in life.


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10 Aug 2007, 3:28 am

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Flagg wrote:
Mitch8817 wrote:
I didn't ask for these disorders, and I certainly don't deserve them. People let me down. I get exhausted of life.


Don't worry too much, you just have a brief stint here. You'll eventually get your death and release from exsistence, a long dreamless nap. Life has a limit for a reason.


Comforting, yet saddening that it is only death that we have to look forward to in life.


Death gives life meaning, it's like why things like gold and diamonds are considered precious.



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10 Aug 2007, 3:38 am

Flagg wrote:
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Flagg wrote:
Mitch8817 wrote:
I didn't ask for these disorders, and I certainly don't deserve them. People let me down. I get exhausted of life.


Don't worry too much, you just have a brief stint here. You'll eventually get your death and release from exsistence, a long dreamless nap. Life has a limit for a reason.


Comforting, yet saddening that it is only death that we have to look forward to in life.


Death gives life meaning, it's like why things like gold and diamonds are considered precious.


I said exactly the same thing in a thread yesterday.


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10 Aug 2007, 3:41 am

Great minds think alike.

I've understood this for quite a while myself, given me a bit more resolve.

I never do something half heartadly or overly slowly because each heart beat is on borrowed time, gotta enjoy life. Not sit behind a goddamned desk losing your humanity (Unless you find that enjoyable, different strokes for different folks)


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10 Aug 2007, 3:47 am

I suppose, though, you would have to know death before you could value life. Some sort of tragedy to shake you up, or be imbued with a sense of mortality.

mmm, I've also learnt to act quickly as everything is fleeting, including my feelings. You have to act whilst they are still pure, or else your just chasing around empty ideas.


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10 Aug 2007, 6:34 am

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i think i'm an extrovert with the self-analysing non-stop in my head, extrovert cause i do talk to people whenever they cross an interest of mine. it's their movement, voice or activity that attracts me. at the same time i'm also introvert cause if this attraction isn't there i just don't talk and am more in a mode of 'waiting' or more probably drawing, reading or something.
as for the extrovert part i agree with you both starr and techstep(*), it does get me into uncomfortable situations (people get mad, or even agressive) but at other times it does give me interesting contacts and a lot of people do approve of the fact that i'll easily be active.

(funny to read you both in one post :D)


Most people are a mix of both I think. Mind you though, introverts do a lot of the same stuff you just mentioned, not that they don't talk to people - they may even feel the need to do it a lot - but it drains them ultimately and they need time to recharge unlike extroverts who draw all kinds of energy off of people.



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12 Aug 2007, 11:51 pm

I'll be happy when WP becomes a place of free speech again.