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Do you think that the PPR forum should be more or less moderated?
More 42%  42%  [ 20 ]
Less 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
It's fine the way it is 44%  44%  [ 21 ]
BURN....WITH...MEEEEEEE!! !! ! 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
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15 Oct 2008, 8:06 am

ho ho ho


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15 Oct 2008, 8:30 am

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Okay, do you want me to be not so polite? Your calling sartreuse a turd-muncher is a personal attack, and if it weren't for the fact that I am sure you were being facetious, I would have taken action.

Well, I think the most polite thing to do in this instance is to insult chever. :P But in all seriousness, I could honestly say that by refusing to phrase your position in a systematic manner, you could come off as rather crude. After all, as greenblue notes, the line between excrement and non-excrement could also be taken as blurry. Not only that, but your statement on the meaning of "freedom of speech" could be taken as a callous dismissal of the philosophical positions of a few members, which seems rude.

As for calling sartresue a turd-muncher, I could also argue that it is technically accurate. If sartresue has ever eaten a "Little Debbie's" snack, she has likely eaten a bunch of bug turd, and most people have had one of those. And if not that, then likely something else. Turd, in some form or variety, is rather easy to consume by accident.
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This is a warning to you all. You have, at best, limited time. As you have not taken my words seriously, I will warn you this much: come December, I will personally clean house in this forum. You have until then to clean your act up.

Why are you so concerned about taking action in this forum? I am just curious, as you seem to place such emphasis in cleaning house.


Adding insult to the wound topic

I had no idea I was being flamed. First time. Remember, I have CAPD, and this often extends to written stuff. But I appreciate being defended. Feels kind of nice. :lol:

I remember Pierre Elliot Trudeau used to say to his opponents to "Mange le merd!"
At least half of them did not understand what he said. :P


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15 Oct 2008, 8:35 am

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ho ho ho


All aboard the lollercoaster!


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15 Oct 2008, 8:47 am

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15 Oct 2008, 9:16 am

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Because this has been one of the worst forums, flames and personal attacks-wise. And you still do not take me seriously.

So? The issue is one of *your* motive. You can't point to an external, because an external fact, while hinting at your reason does not explain the internal fact of motive, also the forum did not suddenly get attacked by spammers, so you are acting against the status quo. You expect to be taken seriously? Based upon what? Some nameless fear? I save that for those who can actually do something to hurt me, not some moderator on some forum.

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And as for my assertion that freedom of speech isn't freedom to talk excrement, it is a statement of fact. If freedom of speech means to you to say whatever you want, regardless of consequence to others, then you have no place here.

No, it isn't. If that is your response, all you are proving is that *you* have no place here, as I wasn't aware that logical fallacies, such as an implied argumentum ad baculum, are what we want to be promoting on a philosophy forum. We may have insults here, but I don't think we have many straight-up ad hominems at least.

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And by the way, no betting, and no disrespecting moderators. The first to laugh at me will be the first to be scrutinised.

Scrutinised? You know that you have no due respect to you in the rules, I checked at the top of the forum, so unless you are trying to create a tyrannical order to support rule of law by it's violation, you cannot do much. Are you trying to be the hero that "saves WP from the black morass of PPR"? I mean, you seem upset that so many people are not reacting pleasantly to your arrival, but if people are not acting pleasantly to your arrival, then what impels you to come here?



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15 Oct 2008, 9:43 am

Lollergagging topic

chever forgot the LOLercoaster. :lol:

Interesting use of Ls, Os, Vs, |s, \s and /s. Reminds me of early video games.

LOLcat. :cat: :mrgreen:


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15 Oct 2008, 10:08 am

Well. 'Bout time a moderator decided to wade into the blood bath that is PPR. I'll give you alot of credit for that.

This (for one example) looks more than a little like a power trip however...

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... and no disrespecting moderators. The first to laugh at me will be the first to be scrutinised.


...and makes me wonder about your objectivity. You certainly seem to be trying to lay down the law here in a pretty dictatorial manner that looks anything but impartial. I have seen repeated inferences of If-you-question-my-authority-I-will-make-you-pay. I'm gonna get in the Question-The-OP's-Motive-Line here.

I would get out of this bear cage of a thread where this lot is only going to continue their "nyaaa nyaaa's" and stick poking, start watching quietly, and put your money where your mouth is and start warning and booting in Dec. We have been duly warned. Yes, that was nice of you, but looking for some sort of validation of your authority isn't going to get you anywhere but p***** off.

I'll admit I'm not the best at keeping my head down, I cuss alot, I indulge in personal attacks (especially if they bite first,) but I (probably) won't laugh at you. I don't have quite the deal with authority figures as most.

These (us?) yahoos aren't going settle down because of a warning thread, and your certainly not going to get any respect by continuing this line of argument here.

Please note: I am fully aware that I will probably be one of the first to go. :) Since I am *gasp* attempting to give advice and constructive criticism to a moderator, in *gasp again* public. :wink:

Good luck, and may God be with you. (That last bit only half in jest.) See you in Dec.


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15 Oct 2008, 5:06 pm

pheonixiis wrote:
This (for one example) looks more than a little like a power trip however...

Quatermass wrote:
... and no disrespecting moderators. The first to laugh at me will be the first to be scrutinised.


Yeah. I was about to ask Quatermass for his badge number.


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15 Oct 2008, 5:33 pm

Oh, hi guys. I'm just in time for the party :)


QuaterMass, your avatar is nice. Do you actually watch the his reviews or just a fan of the caricature?


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15 Oct 2008, 5:35 pm

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I would bet I'll survive, if I don't it will likely be less because I am insulting, and more likely because I am anti-authority and a contrarian.

No you aren't.


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15 Oct 2008, 5:49 pm

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15 Oct 2008, 6:01 pm

oscuria wrote:
Oh, hi guys. I'm just in time for the party :)


QuaterMass, your avatar is nice. Do you actually watch the his reviews or just a fan of the caricature?


I actually watch the Zero Punctuation reviews.


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15 Oct 2008, 6:17 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
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Because this has been one of the worst forums, flames and personal attacks-wise. And you still do not take me seriously.

So? The issue is one of *your* motive. You can't point to an external, because an external fact, while hinting at your reason does not explain the internal fact of motive, also the forum did not suddenly get attacked by spammers, so you are acting against the status quo. You expect to be taken seriously? Based upon what? Some nameless fear? I save that for those who can actually do something to hurt me, not some moderator on some forum.


My motive is to make this forum a more conducive place for all WP members to reasonably debate PPR topics in general, not an Intensity Squared surrogate for immature, ungrateful bullies who delight in ripping a person to shreds because they don't share the same religious, political, or philosophical beliefs. Right now, it's clear that this is WP's little I2 subsection, and I say:

It will stop.


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15 Oct 2008, 7:17 pm

Hey, stop poking the moderator. 8O If you guys all get banned, this forum will not be any fun to read anymore.



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15 Oct 2008, 7:32 pm

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and I say:

It will stop.


You are trying to get them to duck their heads and obey. These people don't do that. Your point is made, by continuing to try to fight they are sucking you right into their way of thinking.
My advice:

a) Stop responding.- it won't do any good. They will not do anything but mock your every attempt at mandating respect
b) (My pick) Ask another moderator to take this task over(as your objectivity has been repeatedly questioned). Don't ask them to post, warnings have been delivered. They just need to watch and make an objective decision.

My opinion: (worth almost what you paid for it :wink: ) You have become un-objective. You are angry with these people and it shows. It is the responsibility of those in authority to recognize when they cease to be right for the job.


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15 Oct 2008, 7:39 pm

Quatermass wrote:
Right now, it's clear that this is WP's little I2 subsection, and I say:

It will stop.


¡YOU WILL GIVE ME T.P.! ¡BUNGHOLIO!


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