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And the winner is...
Greeedy American Bankers and predatory loans 16%  16%  [ 8 ]
The Middle Class and the "American Dream" 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Greedy Bankers - everywhere 16%  16%  [ 8 ]
Former President Bush 12%  12%  [ 6 ]
The Fed 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
The Chinese 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Capitalism 16%  16%  [ 8 ]
Damn yankees 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
All of the above 14%  14%  [ 7 ]
None of the above 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
You. Yes, you. 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
Other/I don't care 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 51

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12 Feb 2009, 4:52 am

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If nothing existed there would be no financial crisis. Ergo, I blame everything and/or God.


Then all we have to do is prove the non existence of god and the problem goes away :D


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12 Feb 2009, 9:26 am

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Then all we have to do is prove the non existence of god and the problem goes away :D

Not really, I am blaming everything and/or god, obviously I won't be blaming god if he doesn't exist.



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12 Feb 2009, 9:36 am

an alien from space is recieving the broadcasts about the "financial crisis".
being totally phoenetic in his understanding of speech, and also aware of a vast nest of upstanding and morally pure ant's that are being threatened by dropping temperatures (as a result of ocean currents disturbed by the global warming event), he assembles the complete scene in his mind.

it is a "fine ant chill crisis".

i am going to want to delete this tommoroow but i will be stuck with my stupid post because i am too tired now to care about reasons for not pressing "submit".



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12 Feb 2009, 9:45 am

"OMG I need that new car so badly even though my current one works so well! *gets credit*"

"OMG Now I notice I was supposed to pay that credit.. Hrrr, ok, gets *mortage*"

"Hmnn I might lose mah house!" (Either gives the house out and which causes house prizes to drop or declares bankruptcy, both things make banks go bonkers eventually)

"OMG why is the government taking my taxes to the banks? Not like I had anything to do in their fall."


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12 Feb 2009, 10:41 am

Unless I missed it, I haven't seen anyone else blaming Bush and Cheney (and Rove) and the morons who voted for them - twice! Well, if no one else will - I will!

My evidence:

They are clueless on economics. To them economics = big business. WRONG!
They and their buddies believed the idea that SEC regulation and oversight is "communism"
After 9/11 he told us to go shopping (one big retail therapy session)
He brought us into a pointless war that cost billions to fund
They pissed away Clinton's balanced budget
Rebate checks (wtf?)
Their "plan" of funding the "war or terror" with Iraq's oil industry was a bust
GOP = Big giant SUV's become all the rage - many bought with subprime loans
They stirred up the strife in Iraq so that they infrastructure is built then gets blown up again - then has to be built again (that costs money!)
They botched Katrina so badly - wasting millions
They refused to invest in science-based R&D - key word - "invest"
They were clueless and short-sighted about international trade
They ignited anti-Western/capitalism sentiment all over the world - alienating many countries with natural resources
They ignited anti-Western/capitalism sentiment all over the world - alienating muslim groups - some who blow things up
Over and over again, Bush reinforces the American dream as "owning" a home (what was so wrong with renting?)
The homeland security policies and programs were disastrous and wasteful (Hello - TSA??? I'm talking to you!)
They overpaid contractors in Iraq
They got Tony Blair and John Howard and other leaders suckered in so they were then not focusing on their own economies
The time and money they DID invest in energy and transportation was largely oil and automakers so that when oil prices spiked last year, it did irrepairable harm to the entire global economy and to people's "savings" (even China!)

Ugh - I'm tired.


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12 Feb 2009, 10:49 am

And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


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12 Feb 2009, 10:59 am

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And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


Cant you guys take a Hint? :?

Its the J word! you fools! :lol:



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12 Feb 2009, 11:23 am

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twoshots wrote:
And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


Cant you guys take a Hint? :?

Its the J word! you fools! :lol:

The Japanese? :scratch:


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12 Feb 2009, 11:44 am

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And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


An aspie accusing another aspie of being irrelevant?

Isn't that an oxymoron or ironic or hypocritical something? Either way - what comes around goes around. Head's up.



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12 Feb 2009, 11:47 am

twoshots wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
twoshots wrote:
And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


Cant you guys take a Hint? :?

Its the J word! you fools! :lol:

The Japanese? :scratch:


I know this one! Is it the Jews??! !


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12 Feb 2009, 11:48 am

^Ah. Of course.

MmeLePen wrote:
twoshots wrote:
And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


An aspie accusing another aspie of being irrelevant?

Isn't that an oxymoron or ironic or hypocritical something? Either way - what comes around goes around. Head's up.

Hmmm. Hypocritical perhaps.


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12 Feb 2009, 1:14 pm

I blame former president bush, the war he started was what brought the USA up to 10 trillion dollars in debt, that did not help the economy at all.


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12 Feb 2009, 1:36 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
twoshots wrote:
And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


Cant you guys take a Hint? :?

Its the J word! you fools! :lol:

The Japanese? :scratch:


I know this one! Is it the Jews??! !


Correct! :mrgreen:
I Really hope you can pick up on the sarcasm though....There has been a resurgence of antisemtism starting in the fall of last year blaming jewish neoconservatives for the US economic crisis. This theory is become VERY popular in Europe and the Middle East right now. :?



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12 Feb 2009, 1:48 pm

Haliphron wrote:
gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
twoshots wrote:
And the award for the longest tirade with the least relevance goes to...


Cant you guys take a Hint? :?

Its the J word! you fools! :lol:

The Japanese? :scratch:


I know this one! Is it the Jews??! !


Correct! :mrgreen:
I Really hope you can pick up on the sarcasm though....There has been a resurgence of antisemtism starting in the fall of last year blaming jewish neoconservatives for the US economic crisis. This theory is become VERY popular in Europe and the Middle East right now. :?


Yeah, I got the sarcasm, there seems to be a longstanding tradition of people blaming the Jews for everything wrong with society.


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12 Feb 2009, 2:03 pm

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Unless I missed it, I haven't seen anyone else blaming Bush and Cheney (and Rove) and the morons who voted for them - twice! Well, if no one else will - I will!


They have their fair share of the blame. But both inherited a enormous chronic trade deficit in even the Clinton-period (current accont balance US; $568 bio. neg.; Germany $267 bio. plus). What they did is to top this trade deficit with a budget deficit. The problem in this respect is less the percentage of the public debt of the GDP (here the US are still with roughly 60% well established), but the sudden raise and the need to borrow the money outside the US.

Your critic is absolutely right: instead of investing the budget deficit, something which can be reasonable, it was used to burn money in war. War is one least economical ways of spending money. In this situation with two major financial problems (trade and budget deficit), combined within a period when the first time since World War I a new currency emergences, which has the potential to replace the US-$ as world currency, the Euro, makes the US much more vulnerable.

The situation would be easier, if Bush/Cheney would acted less ideological.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:26 pm

I think there's definitely more than one entity/person to blame, but I lay the biggest blame on the Federal Reserve.