19 Feb 2009, 1:32 am
IdahoAspie wrote:
I think we should start a civil war in China and then join one side of the war. The reasons are numerous.
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
If we lost such a war, for which there is signifigant chance, our country would be DEVASTATED by nuclear weapons. If you think Russia would sit idly by and stay out of this conflict you are Sorely mistaken! Russia and China are de facto allies and you can better believe Russia would intervene. Such a war with China most certainly WILL involve nuclear weapons!
Other than the US, the worlds most militarily powerful nations are NOT democratic! You should not assume that war is always good for the economy. And a war involving nuclear weapons sure as bloody hell WOULD NOT be. The vietnam war created debt which contributed to the recession in the 70s and it may very well be that our country cannot financially afford ANY kind of major war right now.
But Im not suprised that someone from Idaho would come up with such a stupid and perposterous idea.
BTW, I sure hope that there are Russian and/or Chinese ICBMs aimed at Idaho!!
19 Feb 2009, 3:45 am
Haliphron wrote:
IdahoAspie wrote:
I think we should start a civil war in China and then join one side of the war. The reasons are numerous.
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
If we lost such a war, for which there is signifigant chance, our country would be DEVASTATED by nuclear weapons. If you think Russia would sit idly by and stay out of this conflict you are Sorely mistaken! Russia and China are de facto allies and you can better believe Russia would intervene. Such a war with China most certainly WILL involve nuclear weapons!
Other than the US, the worlds most militarily powerful nations are NOT democratic! You should not assume that war is always good for the economy. And a war involving nuclear weapons sure as bloody hell WOULD NOT be. The vietnam war created debt which contributed to the recession in the 70s and it may very well be that our country cannot financially afford ANY kind of major war right now.
But Im not suprised that someone from Idaho would come up with such a stupid and perposterous idea.BTW, I sure hope that there are Russian and/or Chinese ICBMs aimed at Idaho!!
Most the US debt is to China, which would be absolved. So 4.5 Trillion would be cut from the deficit. In addition, our trade deficit would be cut in half too. That would boost the economy. China could not use nuclear weapons in a civil war, are not capable of understanding that? China does not have nuclear weapons to reach here. And Russia is starving, so it wouldn't lift a finger.
And feel free to attack Idaho all you want. But we invented the television and produced the chips in your computer, not just potato chips. My home town has more PhD's per capital than any other city in America.
If we lost the war, China would just remain in the hands of the Communist Party. It would not take over the US. But since you think so highly of the USA, why wouldn't you be for it if you think the Communist Party is such a great thing for the Chinese people.
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19 Feb 2009, 4:42 am
ruennsheng wrote:
But that may remove a communist power that is so unfriendly towards the US, am I right?
Firstly China is not f*****g COMMUNIST secondly and amongst a myriad of reasons why this proposal is f*****g stupid it would most likely leave (if the myth is to be believed) cockroaches in control of the planet.
19 Feb 2009, 4:44 am
19 Feb 2009, 11:40 am
IdahoAspie wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
IdahoAspie wrote:
I think we should start a civil war in China and then join one side of the war. The reasons are numerous.
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
If we lost such a war, for which there is signifigant chance, our country would be DEVASTATED by nuclear weapons. If you think Russia would sit idly by and stay out of this conflict you are Sorely mistaken! Russia and China are de facto allies and you can better believe Russia would intervene. Such a war with China most certainly WILL involve nuclear weapons!
Other than the US, the worlds most militarily powerful nations are NOT democratic! You should not assume that war is always good for the economy. And a war involving nuclear weapons sure as bloody hell WOULD NOT be. The vietnam war created debt which contributed to the recession in the 70s and it may very well be that our country cannot financially afford ANY kind of major war right now.
But Im not suprised that someone from Idaho would come up with such a stupid and perposterous idea.BTW, I sure hope that there are Russian and/or Chinese ICBMs aimed at Idaho!!
Most the US debt is to China, which would be absolved. So 4.5 Trillion would be cut from the deficit. In addition, our trade deficit would be cut in half too. That would boost the economy. China could not use nuclear weapons in a civil war, are not capable of understanding that? China does not have nuclear weapons to reach here. And Russia is starving, so it wouldn't lift a finger.
And feel free to attack Idaho all you want. But we invented the television and produced the chips in your computer, not just potato chips. My home town has more PhD's per capital than any other city in America.
If we lost the war, China would just remain in the hands of the Communist Party. It would not take over the US. But since you think so highly of the USA, why wouldn't you be for it if you think the Communist Party is such a great thing for the Chinese people.
I dont believe your BS about more PhDs per capita until you show some EVIDENCE for it. NO, Russia is not starving anymore in case you havent been paying attention for the last 8 years. Putin has managed to revive Russia's economy through the sale of oil and gas(mainly to Europe)and has invested that money in rebuilding Russia's military.China actually DOES have ICBMs that are capable of reaching the United States, and the chances of a civil war in contemporary china are exactly Zero. Idaho is a beautiful state, the only bad thing about it is the people
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And NO, the television was NOT invented in Idaho! It was invented de facto in Pennsylvania(Pittsburg to be exact).
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19 Feb 2009, 11:56 am
Haliphron wrote:
IdahoAspie wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
IdahoAspie wrote:
I think we should start a civil war in China and then join one side of the war. The reasons are numerous.
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
1) It would bring back the economy, spending money on a war brought us out of a depression, it would do the same now.
2) We need to eliminate the communist dictatorship that exists in China. It has major gross human rights violations. By eliminating the Chinese government we eliminate the only existing super power that seriously violates human rights.
3) We could reduce the national debt and the trade deficit. We would not need to pay China what we owe them. And we would not be purchasing goods them. Instead we would be manufacturing them in the United States.
4) China is destroying the environment. The amount of population is incrediablty destructive to the planet, and people living there, and soon the oceans and the even the world's ecosystem.
5) If helped Chinese people over throw their government, we would become allies, and help the Chinese people live in and experience a Democracy like the rest of the world's superpowers.
What do you think? Should we allow China to continue as it is? Or is now the time to overturn their government, before it is to late?
If we lost such a war, for which there is signifigant chance, our country would be DEVASTATED by nuclear weapons. If you think Russia would sit idly by and stay out of this conflict you are Sorely mistaken! Russia and China are de facto allies and you can better believe Russia would intervene. Such a war with China most certainly WILL involve nuclear weapons!
Other than the US, the worlds most militarily powerful nations are NOT democratic! You should not assume that war is always good for the economy. And a war involving nuclear weapons sure as bloody hell WOULD NOT be. The vietnam war created debt which contributed to the recession in the 70s and it may very well be that our country cannot financially afford ANY kind of major war right now.
But Im not suprised that someone from Idaho would come up with such a stupid and perposterous idea.BTW, I sure hope that there are Russian and/or Chinese ICBMs aimed at Idaho!!
Most the US debt is to China, which would be absolved. So 4.5 Trillion would be cut from the deficit. In addition, our trade deficit would be cut in half too. That would boost the economy. China could not use nuclear weapons in a civil war, are not capable of understanding that? China does not have nuclear weapons to reach here. And Russia is starving, so it wouldn't lift a finger.
And feel free to attack Idaho all you want. But we invented the television and produced the chips in your computer, not just potato chips. My home town has more PhD's per capital than any other city in America.
If we lost the war, China would just remain in the hands of the Communist Party. It would not take over the US. But since you think so highly of the USA, why wouldn't you be for it if you think the Communist Party is such a great thing for the Chinese people.
I dont believe your BS about more PhDs per capita until you show some EVIDENCE for it. And no, Russia is not starving anymore in case you havent been paying attention for the last 8 years. Putin has managed to revive Russia's economy through the sale of oil and gas(mainly to Europe)and has invested that money in rebuilding Russia's military.
China actually DOES have ICBMs that are capable of reaching the United States, and the chances of a civil war in contemporary china are exactly Zero. Idaho is a beautiful state, the only bad thing about it is the people
.And NO, the television was NOT invented in Idaho! It was more-or-less invented de facto in Pennsylvania(Pittsburg to be exact).
As idiotic as one person posting from Idaho might be it should not be taken as an excuse to defame all the people living there. I have no figures on the matter but just as a matter of general fairness I would assume a sector in Idaho with better reasoning capabilities.
19 Feb 2009, 2:08 pm
The Only possible civil war scenario in China is a breakaway attempt by Tibet or Inner Mongolia. And honestly, because of the terrain and minimal population density I have no doubt that the Chinese government very well might consider the use of tactical nuclear weapons. Part of the reason being that China is large enough that the fallout would mainly settle within those regions and most of the casualties would be among NON-ethnic chinese(Tibetans and Mongols). The USSR conducted open air and underground testing in areas where the inhabitants were non-russian/non-european, like Kazakhstan for instance.
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