10 Apr 2012, 4:51 pm
10 Apr 2012, 4:53 pm
10 Apr 2012, 4:53 pm
Vigilans wrote:
Sex is business though
I've never got anything in return for it as a transaction. Nor would I want to.
10 Apr 2012, 4:55 pm
10 Apr 2012, 5:14 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sorry I was gone for so long -- there were some women who needed oppressing, and, well, I was there, so...
I really hope that's not true.
One might wish, but do you have a better explanation for the phenomenon?
Ya, you forgot that all women's actions are men's fault -- for conditioning them that way. (You know, conditioning the "strong, indepedent" gender.) And since there will always be men living near women, feminists will always have someone to blame!
You feminists won't like what my wife thinks of women who constantly b***h at or about men. She has had this theory for years. She believes that many of those women unconsciously want to be controlled. Let me quote her from another forum, so I get it exactly right:
ArrantPariah wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Why blame "society?" Maybe women are just easier to manipulate, because they wish to conform to what they regard as the demands of "society", when, in fact, it is just a handful of moguls who are calling "society's" shots. The moguls decide what styles are going to be fashionable, and the ladies knock themselves out with conforming.
I really hope that's not true.
One might wish, but do you have a better explanation for the phenomenon?
Ya, you forgot that all women's actions are men's fault -- for conditioning them that way. (You know, conditioning the "strong, indepedent" gender.) And since there will always be men living near women, feminists will always have someone to blame!
You feminists won't like what my wife thinks of women who constantly b***h at or about men. She has had this theory for years. She believes that many of those women unconsciously want to be controlled. Let me quote her from another forum, so I get it exactly right:
Quote:
When your in one of these Relationship Dynamics you have a clear cut role to be and what is expected of you. It is a very reassuring feeling.
Before I understood my self I would act out and be bitchy and naughty because deep down I wanted to be controlled. I couldn't control myself and I needed someone to do it for me. It was so subconscious. That want and the actions that followed. That I didn't realize it myself why I was behaving like that until we started this relationship. And then I think about the women in my family. How they would behave like me except 100x worse and it got worse and worse threw the years. And it led me to believe that could these women be craving the same control that I have been and not be aware of it? Could this be a need that women, by nature, want?
Now, I'm only going by my family and it might just be our thing. But sometimes I wonder when women get out of control and bitchy and angry, if it is a cry for help to be controlled from them selves. Because that's how it was with me.
Before I understood my self I would act out and be bitchy and naughty because deep down I wanted to be controlled. I couldn't control myself and I needed someone to do it for me. It was so subconscious. That want and the actions that followed. That I didn't realize it myself why I was behaving like that until we started this relationship. And then I think about the women in my family. How they would behave like me except 100x worse and it got worse and worse threw the years. And it led me to believe that could these women be craving the same control that I have been and not be aware of it? Could this be a need that women, by nature, want?
Now, I'm only going by my family and it might just be our thing. But sometimes I wonder when women get out of control and bitchy and angry, if it is a cry for help to be controlled from them selves. Because that's how it was with me.
What does it mean when men get "out of control and bitchy and angry," Ragtime? Is it a cry to be controlled by women? Could this be a need that men, by nature, want? Perhaps they feel they can't control themselves and they need someone to do it for them.
10 Apr 2012, 5:19 pm
CloudLayer wrote:
What does it mean when men get "out of control and bitchy and angry," Ragtime? Is it a cry to be controlled by women? Could this be a need that men, by nature, want? Perhaps they feel they can't control themselves and they need someone to do it for them.
I think you've actually got it backwards. Women secretly have a need to be controlled by a strong but sensitive man because by nature they feel that they really can't control themselves and need someone to do it for them.
10 Apr 2012, 5:27 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Ya, you forgot that all women's actions are men's fault -- for conditioning them that way. (You know, conditioning the "strong, indepedent" gender.) And since there will always be men living near women, feminists will always have someone to blame!
nobody said that.
10 Apr 2012, 5:27 pm
10 Apr 2012, 5:29 pm
10 Apr 2012, 5:31 pm
10 Apr 2012, 5:32 pm
hyperlexian wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Ya, you forgot that all women's actions are men's fault -- for conditioning them that way. (You know, conditioning the "strong, indepedent" gender.) And since there will always be men living near women, feminists will always have someone to blame!
nobody said that.
Sexism is cultural, everybody's trained in it. Feminism's issue is with cultural inequality, not with men.
10 Apr 2012, 5:33 pm
CloudLayer wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Ya, you forgot that all women's actions are men's fault -- for conditioning them that way. (You know, conditioning the "strong, indepedent" gender.) And since there will always be men living near women, feminists will always have someone to blame!
nobody said that.
Sexism is cultural, everybody's trained in it. Feminism's issue is with cultural inequality, not with men.
EXACTLY.
10 Apr 2012, 5:39 pm
puddingmouse wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Sex is business though
I've never got anything in return for it as a transaction. Nor would I want to.
Well I mean think about it. How big is the sex industry? I do not mean just prostitution or porn but sex toys, books, magazines, classes, clothing, items...
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