Is being gay wrong?

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theres a documentary show on channel 2 tonight about some gay guy who goes on a course to learn to be straight.

Sounds like a corporate commercial show from rednecks who want to send the message that gays are a choice.

Religion is the last resort as an excuse for redneck a**holes to be homophobic.

What do you expect gay people to do? Stand up and say "I admit it, I am the scum of the earth, it is all a choice and I chose to be a scum, and I deserve to die!" eh? Actually, now thinking about it, I bet the commercial media would like to make a show where they set someone up to say it.

Channel 2 doesn't have commercials. The BBC is goverment funded.

Oh well. Maybe it's trying to prove the opposite then.

they have - Springer (and it's appalling ilk).

Presumably he wants to be straight then. I hope things go well for him but doubt it as i think being gay due to a lot of things including bioligy and brain make up and not all psyhological, though that is part of it imo.

[The TV gay guy] prolly gets a lot of s**t for being gay. I am lucky: I have never been harrassed nor teased for it (sheltered life). But if I were getting shat on every day for being gay, I'd likely want to change, too.

The best you could do is pretend to the point where you actually believe you're straight, and that would be hard work that wasn't worth it. You'd end up being fully depressed about not being able to enjoy your love life the same way others enjoy theirs. And that's why homophobia etc. is so bad. It's due to people who have to spend their whole life putting their happiness on hold just so other people never have to.

When I was at school, I was homophobic as well, but that's because everyone at school was, at it seemed the norm. But it doesn't do anyone any good, so it's best to get over it.

How do you know that him not wanting to be gay isnt about his own social values. I will wait till i see the program before deciding his reasons.

I don't understand why it seems to annoy so many people. I relly hate tripe, but if people want to eat tripe in the privacy of their own homes, so what? I can even tolerate being there when someone eats tripe, big of me, eh? what can I find objectionable about someones sexuality that I have any right to find objectionable? (tripe here being cows stomach, just in case there is any confusion).
What an I missing?

hope you don't mind, thatrsdude, but i've taken a few liberties with your post, to make a point. the bits i've changed are in bold.

(please refer to thatrsdude's original post, as he did NOT say the following, doctored version).

just a few simple changes. i could have changed it to women, older people, etc. makes one think, doesn't it?

That's kinda what i based the original post on.

That may be, but what about those of us who don't believe in such tripe? Do you think others should be forced to life under religious rule because fundies (hell, even non fundies) somehow know whats best for us? Whether or not it is frowned upon in a book that may not have even been written by/inspired by a "god" does not give religious people a right to force the rest of us to live to their standards.

Yes, I support homosexuality. They're not hurting anyone. They deserve the same civil rights as straights have. Adopting kids, civil unions, etc. They, too, are people, regardless of their sexual orientation.

"Because the bible says so" is a sick and sad reason to deny anyone their rights or to treat anyone poorly (different races come to mind, as well as Aspies.) Religious people do not know whats best for others, and they should stop acting like it (George Bush and the Fundie Friends come to mind).

"because the bible says so" is a damn cop out. if you wanna be a sheep, sean, go ahead, but not all of us are interested in handing our "god-given" brains back to god. some of us like to actually think on our own, sorry you are too afraid/lazy/whatever to do that.

I remember reading on the net some info about the hypocrisy of people using the bible as an excuse aainst homosexuality, because there's other sins that apparently never get enforced. I haven't read the bible, but apparently there's things along the lines of "a woman who wears a garment with two kinds of stitching gets stoned to death" and there were a few others like this. As it points out, since when were those things enforced?

More evidence to suggest that these over religious zealots are using the bible as nothing more than an excuse to be against homosexuality.

yep. there are all kinds of rules in the bible that are now considered old fashioned/wrong/stupid.