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06 Dec 2010, 4:40 pm

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I tend to use the word "illiterate" a bit more loosely than I probably should. I'm sure Palin is capable of reading (although she evidently doesn't do it very often).

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Just cause you have someone working with on writing something doesn't mean you don't write quite a bit of it yourself. I wasn't referring to the ghost writers which she may have had a coauthor. I am referring to the idea that she is illiterate.


Obviously you're not familiar with the ghostwriting process soooooooooo:

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Ghostwrit ... &id=332195


Generally they will read what the Ghostwriter writes, assuming she had a ghostwriter because she has a Degree in Journalism. :lol:


She has a communications degree.

At my university at least (and it is probably the same elsewhere), the communications school is known as a dumping ground for people who flunk out of the business school. And the business school is known as a dumping ground for people who flunk out of real majors.


Basically what you said or if they want to get into TV or radio. The journalism "emphasis*" was because she wanted to do sportscasting.


*She was listed as having an emphasis in journalism but that's a vague term as far as what classes and how many hours she may have actually done.


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06 Dec 2010, 4:45 pm

You are acting like a complete shill for the energy companies. Why do you fail to mention any of the American fishermen who had their livilyhood ruined by the BP oil spill, who are still suffering from the repercussions of lost business, despite the fact that the media isn't giving them any attention these days. :x How can the government be certain a catastrophy like that isn't going to occur on another rig when the oil companies are protecting their reputation at the expense of being open and honest as to the cause of the catastrophy.

You see, this is the problem with people like you. You only mention one side of the story and conveniently leave out the rest. That's what all the talking heads on the right do. They only present half the facts so people like you can soak them up and parrot them verbatim.



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06 Dec 2010, 4:47 pm

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You are acting like a complete shill for the energy companies. Why do you fail to mention any of the American fishermen who had their livilyhood ruined by the BP oil spill, who are still suffering from the repercussions of lost business, despite the fact that the media isn't giving them any attention these days. :x How can the government be certain a catastrophy like that isn't going to occur on another rig when the oil companies are protecting their reputation at the expense of being open and honest as to the cause of the catastrophy.

You see, this is the problem with people like you. You only mention one side of the story and conveniently leave out the rest. That's what all the talking heads on the right do. They only present half the facts so people like you can soak them up and parrot them verbatim.


Don't forget the Vietnamese immigrants who've had far worse treatment in that whole ordeal.


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06 Dec 2010, 4:52 pm

^ too late.



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06 Dec 2010, 5:13 pm

I consider myself to be a political person. I care about issues and have my own set of social and ethical views. However, I don't buy into all this Democraps vs. Republicunts bull$hit that everyone seems to be so obsessed with. I know it's popular nowadays to just take in partisan dogma verbatim and spit it back out, but whatever happened to being an independent thinker?


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06 Dec 2010, 5:15 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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You are acting like a complete shill for the energy companies. Why do you fail to mention any of the American fishermen who had their livilyhood ruined by the BP oil spill, who are still suffering from the repercussions of lost business, despite the fact that the media isn't giving them any attention these days. :x How can the government be certain a catastrophy like that isn't going to occur on another rig when the oil companies are protecting their reputation at the expense of being open and honest as to the cause of the catastrophy.

You see, this is the problem with people like you. You only mention one side of the story and conveniently leave out the rest. That's what all the talking heads on the right do. They only present half the facts so people like you can soak them up and parrot them verbatim.


Don't forget the Vietnamese immigrants who've had far worse treatment in that whole ordeal.


True. The Obama admin has downplayed the ongoing environmental and economic damages of the catastrophy to save political face. Even NOAA has been downplaying it. If conservatives really wanted to attack the Obama administration and government it should be for this. Yet not a peep. They only whine about the "rights" of multi-national energy companies being infringed on by the moratorium. It's sickening.



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06 Dec 2010, 5:45 pm

marshall wrote:
You are acting like a complete shill for the energy companies. Why do you fail to mention any of the American fishermen who had their livilyhood ruined by the BP oil spill, who are still suffering from the repercussions of lost business, despite the fact that the media isn't giving them any attention these days. :x How can the government be certain a catastrophy like that isn't going to occur on another rig when the oil companies are protecting their reputation at the expense of being open and honest as to the cause of the catastrophy.

You see, this is the problem with people like you. You only mention one side of the story and conveniently leave out the rest. That's what all the talking heads on the right do. They only present half the facts so people like you can soak them up and parrot them verbatim.
This is actually pretty funny. It was the government who actually encouraged risky deepwater drilling in the first place:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Water ... Relief_Act



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06 Dec 2010, 6:56 pm

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marshall wrote:
You are acting like a complete shill for the energy companies. Why do you fail to mention any of the American fishermen who had their livilyhood ruined by the BP oil spill, who are still suffering from the repercussions of lost business, despite the fact that the media isn't giving them any attention these days. :x How can the government be certain a catastrophy like that isn't going to occur on another rig when the oil companies are protecting their reputation at the expense of being open and honest as to the cause of the catastrophy.

You see, this is the problem with people like you. You only mention one side of the story and conveniently leave out the rest. That's what all the talking heads on the right do. They only present half the facts so people like you can soak them up and parrot them verbatim.
This is actually pretty funny. It was the government who actually encouraged risky deepwater drilling in the first place:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Water ... Relief_Act


I also find it interesting that Obama is supporting drilling even deeper off the coast of Brazil, yet he is banning drilling in the Gulf. Nobody here has even addressed this issue, but I find it interesting I can tie this also to George Soros.



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06 Dec 2010, 7:06 pm

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I disagree with Orwell. Sarah Palin isn't illiterate. She's just dumb. She's also not a nice person from what I've heard.


And you believe reports from the mainstream media about her considering their behavior towards her?

Oh do you mean she never called for Assange to be treated with treason? That was pretty ignorant of her considering how Assange is not a US citizen to begin with. It tells a lot about her. Yet another US politician that is completely unaware that there are citizens elsewhere.

Then she said that wikileaks should be chased like the Taliban. That's another facet of her. Apparently terrorism and journalism is the same thing for her. Regardless of her communication degree. She also doesn't think things through . If Assange was chased like the Taliban, he would be much, much safer than he is right now...

Your modus operandi seems to be :
a) Liberals are wrong.
b) Everything that suggests a liberal may be right must come from biased media therefore they are wrong.
c) That's the reason I only use media with right bias, that way I am protected against bias.
d) Liberals are wrong.


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06 Dec 2010, 7:08 pm

She is not currently in the Government and last I checked she was focused on other things when the Wikileaks came to her attention, didn't she end up clarrifying her remarks...

Again many in the media can't be trusted to be objective when it comes to Palin on both sides.



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06 Dec 2010, 8:22 pm

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...but I find it interesting I can tie this also to George Soros.


Are you playing Six Degrees of George Soros, again? :lol:



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06 Dec 2010, 10:23 pm

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...but I find it interesting I can tie this also to George Soros.


Are you playing Six Degrees of George Soros, again? :lol:


Actually George Soros is responsible for everything "bad" that's happened in the world since around 1980. When Glenn Beck gets a parking ticket it can be directly linked to George Soros. When Rush stubs his big toe, George Soros was probably involved in some way.



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07 Dec 2010, 12:33 pm

marshall wrote:
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...but I find it interesting I can tie this also to George Soros.


Are you playing Six Degrees of George Soros, again? :lol:


Actually George Soros is responsible for everything "bad" that's happened in the world since around 1980. When Glenn Beck gets a parking ticket it can be directly linked to George Soros. When Rush stubs his big toe, George Soros was probably involved in some way.


Sorry but Rush, O'Reilly, Beck, and myself do not suffer from a Soros derangement syndrome, we actually reached our conclusions about Soros using something known as facts in conjunction of actually noticing an unusual circumstance of monatary collapses that somehow happens to on hand about.



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07 Dec 2010, 12:59 pm

Why are you guys busting his nuts? He actually did his own research to back up his arguments this time. He didn't just assume beck was right he actually went and gathered the links for evidence.



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07 Dec 2010, 2:25 pm

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Why are you guys busting his nuts? He actually did his own research to back up his arguments this time. He didn't just assume beck was right he actually went and gathered the links for evidence.


Cause they are using the Saul Alinski playbook, they can't win an argument with the facts because the facts are against them, so they attack the person to try to discredit them.



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07 Dec 2010, 2:52 pm

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Why are you guys busting his nuts? He actually did his own research to back up his arguments this time. He didn't just assume beck was right he actually went and gathered the links for evidence.

The problem is all his anecdotes come from right-wing sources with a conservative spin already attached to the facts. If he only researches the facts that right-wing sources give him, of course he's going to come to the same conclusion they do. The problem is, the right-wing spin machine omits any and all facts/anecdotes that point the other direction. Inuyasha doesn't understand that sources don't have to be outright lying to be biased. All they have to do is conveniently omit any and all facts that might support the other side.

So shame on me if I don't have the infinite amount of unlimited time on my hands that he does to go through and research every thread of every yarn spun up by Glenn Beck and the Fox News spin machine.