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07 Dec 2010, 7:46 pm

It surprises me sometimes how fast things can flip online.



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07 Dec 2010, 8:15 pm

ikorack wrote:
It surprises me sometimes how fast things can flip online.


What do you mean?



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07 Dec 2010, 9:09 pm

Soros is a believer in this idea that Madeleine Albright would express with the words "We are the world's organising principle and Indispensible Nation". Soros attacked people's currencies to make them submit to the Empire. Later, he saw that the Empire was being destroyed from within by insane ideologues. The American Empire is being destroyed by the American Right and this is why Soros jumped into the American political game.



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07 Dec 2010, 9:23 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Soros is a believer in this idea that Madeleine Albright would express with the words "We are the world's organising principle and Indispensible Nation". Soros attacked people's currencies to make them submit to the Empire. Later, he saw that the Empire was being destroyed from within by insane ideologues. The American Empire is being destroyed by the American Right and this is why Soros jumped into the American political game.


Soros wants a one world government that's why he's destroying everyone's currencies.



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07 Dec 2010, 9:40 pm

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I consider myself to be a political person. I care about issues and have my own set of social and ethical views. However, I don't buy into all this Democraps vs. Republicunts bull$hit that everyone seems to be so obsessed with. I know it's popular nowadays to just take in partisan dogma verbatim and spit it back out, but whatever happened to being an independent thinker?


It just gets lost in the "Us vs Them" mentality that rules the day now. Independents don't tend to be as outspoken either.


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07 Dec 2010, 10:07 pm

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@bold no you haven't else I wouldn't have said anything. And if your unwilling to put in the time to understand the argument your 'opponent' is making you shouldn't be debating at all. And like I said he sought used primary sources in his arguments so your insistence that all he is doing is quoting others is incorrect at least in this instance. He has supplied an argument with valid sources, now either shut up or apply the same standards to your own argument.

People have addressed his primary sources in the past. In each case that particular point of debate simply ended and he moved on to something else.

Also, you're still missing something. Even if he uses all primary sources, his sources still leave out information. He only posts information that supports his side of things and leaves out any information that doesn't. Do you ever wonder why that is?


Really I haven't noticed? Perhaps its because his opponent is lazing about. You are still making claims without supplying sources. He didn't even start posting sources until people started claiming he should. Why shouldn't you have to use the same standard?


Exactly what claims do you want me to provide "sources" for?

Inuyasha follows Glenn Beck religiously and reading right-wing media is his personal obsession, so obviously he's going to have the edge in terms of ability to spam discussions with propoganda. He still hasn't provided any convincing argument for his claim that raising the top two income tax brackets to 2000 levels will stop small businesses from hiring.



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07 Dec 2010, 10:11 pm

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Stop with the Saul Allinsky style attacks.



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07 Dec 2010, 10:13 pm

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Stop with the Saul Allinsky style attacks.


You do know that Tea Party activists are using Rules for Radicals as an instruction manuel, right?


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07 Dec 2010, 10:15 pm

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Inuyasha wrote:
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Stop with the Saul Allinsky style attacks.


You do know that Tea Party activists are using Rules for Radicals as an instruction manuel, right?



You see, what I said was right. It is the pragmatists who are the most dangerous. The Tea Party types went to the best source book on how to stir up trouble. The ideology makes no difference, It is the praxology of populism that is a danger to the Republic.



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07 Dec 2010, 10:22 pm

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Stop with the Saul Allinsky style attacks.


As soon as you stop it with the red herrings.



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07 Dec 2010, 10:30 pm

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@bold no you haven't else I wouldn't have said anything. And if your unwilling to put in the time to understand the argument your 'opponent' is making you shouldn't be debating at all. And like I said he sought used primary sources in his arguments so your insistence that all he is doing is quoting others is incorrect at least in this instance. He has supplied an argument with valid sources, now either shut up or apply the same standards to your own argument.

People have addressed his primary sources in the past. In each case that particular point of debate simply ended and he moved on to something else.

Also, you're still missing something. Even if he uses all primary sources, his sources still leave out information. He only posts information that supports his side of things and leaves out any information that doesn't. Do you ever wonder why that is?


Really I haven't noticed? Perhaps its because his opponent is lazing about. You are still making claims without supplying sources. He didn't even start posting sources until people started claiming he should. Why shouldn't you have to use the same standard?


Exactly what claims do you want me to provide "sources" for?

Inuyasha follows Glenn Beck religiously and reading right-wing media is his personal obsession, so obviously he's going to have the edge in terms of ability to spam discussions with propoganda. He still hasn't provided any convincing argument for his claim that raising the top two income tax brackets to 2000 levels will stop small businesses from hiring.


Those are all claims and you have provided no evidence to back up these claims, what information do you have that would contradict or throw doubt on Inuyasha's claims? The rest of your post is pretty subjective so I'll just let it lay.



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07 Dec 2010, 10:57 pm

ikorack wrote:
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@bold no you haven't else I wouldn't have said anything. And if your unwilling to put in the time to understand the argument your 'opponent' is making you shouldn't be debating at all. And like I said he sought used primary sources in his arguments so your insistence that all he is doing is quoting others is incorrect at least in this instance. He has supplied an argument with valid sources, now either shut up or apply the same standards to your own argument.

People have addressed his primary sources in the past. In each case that particular point of debate simply ended and he moved on to something else.

Also, you're still missing something. Even if he uses all primary sources, his sources still leave out information. He only posts information that supports his side of things and leaves out any information that doesn't. Do you ever wonder why that is?


Really I haven't noticed? Perhaps its because his opponent is lazing about. You are still making claims without supplying sources. He didn't even start posting sources until people started claiming he should. Why shouldn't you have to use the same standard?


Exactly what claims do you want me to provide "sources" for?

Inuyasha follows Glenn Beck religiously and reading right-wing media is his personal obsession, so obviously he's going to have the edge in terms of ability to spam discussions with propoganda. He still hasn't provided any convincing argument for his claim that raising the top two income tax brackets to 2000 levels will stop small businesses from hiring.


Those are all claims and you have provided no evidence to back up these claims, what information do you have that would contradict or throw doubt on Inuyasha's claims? The rest of your post is pretty subjective so I'll just let it lay.


Evidence that Inuyasha watches Glenn Beck? He makes frequent makes posts purporting to prove that what Glenn Beck says on his show is true. How would he even know what Glenn Beck claims if he doesn't follow the guy? As for him reading right-wing media, I think that is pretty self-evident. How else would he find all his information?

As far as trying to throw doubt on Inuyasha's claims, why should I? If I attack one claim he will simply move on to another claim, always trying to shift the burden away from him and put the other on the defensive. Not to mention most of his arguments are red herrings. Attacking Obama, George Soros, and/or congressional democrats does not invalidate all arguments by the left. Neither does trying to tie people to the "S" word, as most people on the left don't go into a tizzy at the mere mention of that word.



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07 Dec 2010, 11:01 pm

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As far as trying to throw doubt on Inuyasha's claims, why should I? If I attack one claim he will simply move on to another claim, always trying to shift the burden away from him and put the other on the defensive. Not to mention most of his arguments are red herrings. Attacking Obama, George Soros, and/or congressional democrats does not invalidate all arguments by the left. Neither does trying to tie people to the "S" word, as most people on the left don't go into a tizzy at the mere mention of that word.


I have to admit, I find it pretty interesting how, whenever getting into an "argument" with Inuyasha, he always seems to reference something completely and utterly irrelevant (for instance, when trying to prove that Soros is a socialist, he takes about insider trading or Brazillan Oil companies). Or, when I note ruveyn is elitist, he moves to attack me for mischaracterizing the views of conservatives in general.


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07 Dec 2010, 11:17 pm

>.< the parts in bold where what i was referencing.



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08 Dec 2010, 12:14 am

marshall wrote:
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Stop with the Saul Allinsky style attacks.


As soon as you stop it with the red herrings.


Do you even know what a red herring means, cause it doesn't look like it.

Also thank you for admitting you use Saul Allinsky style attacks.



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08 Dec 2010, 12:30 am

Uhhh what's a red herring and a Saul Allinsky style attack? LOL

All I remember is that red herring has something to do with not addressing the actual issue?

And Master_Pendant, you are ignorant as hell for taking the correction of your idea of conservatives as an attack. An attack would be more like "You are a baby killing commie who hates America!" than "Conservatives for the most part aren't the greedy power hungry bastards you make em out to be"