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15 Mar 2022, 10:39 am

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Russian TV news was broadcast life.
The woman working in the same station entered there with her anti-war cardboard.
She was visible for only a few seconds, before the operators changed visual feed to remove her.
Then, she was arrested.

The scene was recorded by someone and re-transmitted all over the West.
Most Russians speak enough of English to write "stop war" or something like this on a sign.



I saw this footage this morning. A very brave woman. :salut:


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15 Mar 2022, 10:52 am

So if this supposed Russian broadcast confused me as to whether this was a type of propaganda ????? By the USA.
Not actually having been in Russia to witness such a broadcast ? And being in the West , leaves me confused.
Image if you were a non-English speaking Russian and you saw a hand printed sign show up on your news feed that had the Word. NOWAR, printed as the biggest letters on a sign appearing. On your screen . Imagine their confusion ?? Seriously , I do not presume the rest of the entire world speaks English ?
Hate to say this but , I almost feel bad for the Russian people .


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15 Mar 2022, 10:58 am

The rest of the entire world usually speaks enough English to be likely to understand "NO WAR".
People often write in English if they intend to reach international audiences.

No, it wasn't fabricated in USA.

There are all reasons to feel bad for Russian people. They live in a horrible system that harms both others and themselves.


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15 Mar 2022, 10:59 am

But the Russian language part is reported as saying: "No war, stop the war, don't believe the propaganda, they are lying to you here", and that's easily verified using Google Translate (the mobile version will translate images of text).
The report is correct.


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15 Mar 2022, 11:01 am

Jakki wrote:
KCTV news this morning approx. 8 am .

A bit of a tangent:
Ah, KCTV 5, I lived in their broadcast area from late 1980s to early 2000s.
Live outside it now in that void between KCMO and StL.
And the other KCTV, Korean Central Television, North Korea’s nationalized station, I've always lived well outside their broadcast area and am quite content to continue to do so. :lol:


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15 Mar 2022, 1:33 pm

that woman has a conscience and titanium cajones. good show.



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15 Mar 2022, 7:56 pm

auntblabby wrote:
that woman has a conscience and titanium cajones. good show.


Someone on this website indicated she was simply fined and released.



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15 Mar 2022, 7:58 pm

Not really interested, no. Just people killing people in the end and any rationalization is pointless. Everyone can put down their arms and turn off their engines regardless of what the little men behind the curtain say. But, people love it in the end. They often don't love it afterwards though.



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15 Mar 2022, 7:59 pm

Yep....that's exactly what happened. Just Google her name, Marina Ovsyannikova. She has a Wikipedia entry, too.



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16 Mar 2022, 1:55 am

Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
that woman has a conscience and titanium cajones. good show.
Someone on this website indicated she was simply fined and released.
It could have been just a PR thing.
I'd be interested what happens to her after the focus is away.


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16 Mar 2022, 2:03 am

magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
that woman has a conscience and titanium cajones. good show.
Someone on this website indicated she was simply fined and released.
It could have been just a PR thing.
I'd be interested what happens to her after the focus is away.


It wouldn't surprise me in the least.



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16 Mar 2022, 4:44 am

The French president offered her asylum.



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16 Mar 2022, 4:47 am

Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
that woman has a conscience and titanium cajones. good show.

Someone on this website indicated she was simply fined and released.
That hardly minimizes what she did, in Russia of all places. Would it be more realistic or fitting for you if she was made an un-person? But that wouldn't be a sensible PR move after such a public demonstration.

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16 Mar 2022, 1:45 pm

The punishment seems suspiciously mild. It's probably some PR action.
Some critics claim it's grooming audiences - both internal and international - for a coup and dumping all blame personally on Putin. That would be a strong exceuse to push for lifting sanctions.
Time will tell.


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16 Mar 2022, 2:01 pm

magz wrote:
The punishment seems suspiciously mild. It's probably some PR action.  Some critics claim it's grooming audiences - both internal and international - for a coup and dumping all blame on Putin.  Time will tell.
In hushed tones all around the Kremlin, a story is told of a tradition that started with Stalin and has continued well past the Putin years . . .

Yeltsin, knowing that his time was short and that Putin would be his eventual successor, summoned Vladimir to a very private meeting.  After telling Putin how lonely it could get at the top, Yeltsin said: "I've left for you two letters containing my wisest counsel in the bottom drawer of the desk.  Do not open the first one until things are totally terrible.  The second letter should only be opened when you are sure there are no answers to your problems, when you are despairing."

Putin took over and enjoyed a Russian honeymoon.  Then followed trouble: a failed harvest; the five-year plan was two years late and many rubles short; plotting by his political enemies.  At 3 a.m. one morning, Putin broke down and opened the bottom desk drawer and read the first letter.  Its message: "Blame everything on me -- Yeltsin."

That's what Putin did successfully in a major Kremlin address.  All the troubles of the present were pinned on the policies of his predecessor.  It worked, and the pressure was off, for a while. . .

The second honeymoon was brief.  Hostilities along the Chinese border, another lousy crop and the humiliating Ukraine war did very little for Putin's job rating and even less for his own peace of mind.  He was down.  Then he remembered the bottom desk drawer.  Making certain he was alone, Putin quietly opened the envelope and read the one-line message: "Write two letters -- Yeltsin."



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