Is being gay wrong?

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you mean tit don't you?

I suppose like most raging feminists you have something against tits as well.

Would you two give it a rest!?!?!?!?!

I tried to. I never wrote anything about Squanderer all day until i was called a name.

enough, already. cut it out.

i tried too, until Tom's post pissed me off.

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Cut out the name calling and utilize rational debate or the mods are going to start to issue warnings.

This will be your only advisory.

Thank You

Life happens. Death happens. Death is not prefered and I really can't say I have an opinion on abortion either way. In some cases it seems the strict carelessness of the mother who doesn't want the inconvenience. In others, there are more complicated factors. Sometimes even health risks.

Plus, once the mother has the baby, the effects can be long lasting. Some even longer for some mothers. It isn't just popping out a baby and then going back to the fields and working till sundown.

As I said, I have no opinion. But perhaps that's because I'm not always so fond of the human race to begin with.

Despite abortion, we already don't take care of the people we have now.

folks, there's a thread on abortion in this forum, at the following link:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... pic&t=4901

could we please continue this discussion there, and leave this thread for the discussion on homosexuality? thank you.

it's difficult to split the thread, as the two subjects are too interwoven - just to let you know why it's all still here.

I agree.

I once read an article/piece...I don't remember where...Harper's? Can't recall. It was written by a gay man. He had decided to knowingly adopt an HIV baby, even though he knew that there was a good chance the child would late develop AIDS (they don't always, though, soemtimes they just test positive due to the antibodies they developed in the mom's womb...or something like that). He wrote abotu feeding, nurturing, lovign this little baby girl, watching her grow up, the same tender thigns we'd all write about raising a baby of our own...She did end up with AIDS and he nursed her through that, too, until she died. It was sad but very touching...and I really respected that he had opened his heart to a child not very many would want (this is partly why he was able to adopt her- no straight couple would want her!!) He was planning to adopt another HIV+ baby in time...

I have a hell of a lot more respect for that guy than I do for any *perfect* WASPy couple wanting a perfect child...

Here is the way I look at the gay issue: it's none of my damned business who soemone else loves , <b>unless</b> it involves interference with my love life or affects my life directly and negatively somehow.

For the homophobes here, I have this question: what is it that you want/expect from the gays and lesbians of the world? Is it OK for them to be celibate but still essentially gay? Or should they live in fear and guilt every time they feel a spark of attraction for soemone of the same sex? Should they all commit suicide? I mean, what exactly woudl it take for you to accept them as real people with the same rights as you have?

I just can't see hating someone for no other reason than who they love. I'd spend all my life consumed in hatred at nice guys with trashy girls, and nice girls with asshoel boyfriends who treat them badly. If two people are happy together, fine, good for them, it is not for me to condemn or approve or render any sort of judgement on.

Yeh im sure most gay peeple do wanna be gay, but theres still no more choice in the matter than there is with AS. If they werent gay, then i dont think thered want to be eether, the same way you probably woodnt wanna have AS if you didnt.

Only fundamentalists, and thats ok

1 other thing - the bible also says, in these words, "All men are created equal."

Proves my point about every point in the bible being contradicted on one page or another...

Well, 2 out of 4 ain't bad

Seriously though, I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality. I'm not sure whether or not I believe it's completely biological, but I still think that everyone should have their choice of sexual orientation. And I sure as Hell do not agree with all this pushing to make gay marriage illegal just because some old book says it's immoral. I mean, if the Catholic Church wants to ban it, that's their business, but the government should not be involved. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? What's next - a law against gluttony?

I hate me some gays; I hate me some Jews; I hate me some Chinks; I hate me some Deos; I hate me some Krauts; I hate me some Negros; I hate me some Crackas; I hate me some Mexicans; I hate me some Pollocks; I hate me some jocks; I hate me some nerds; I hate me some fatties; I hate me some skin and bones; I hate me some Papists; I hate me some Mormons; I hate me some bin Laden lovers; I hate me some Gringos; I hate me some immigrants; I hate me some lesbians; I hate me some bi's; I hate me some trannies; I hate me some stupid animals; I hate me some environmentalists; I hate me some Fundies; I hate me some Godless heathens; I hate me some capitalists; I hate me some liberal pinkos; I hate me some White Trash; I hate me some Pagans; I hate me some know-it-alls; I hate me some rich pricks; I hate me some lazy poor trash; I hate me some of everything!

Now sign me up for the Army, and get me my gun! Bombs over Baghdad forever!

I used to love people, i used to love em once, a long long time ago, its gone!, all ma lovin has gone. gone gone GONE!

PMSL, neanthumain and eamonn!

who says aspies can't do sarcasm?

marvellous.