ZIMMERMAN VERDICT IS IN - NOT GUILTY
Max000 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
How long are you and yours going to continue to bring race into this?
It really is getting very tedious.
It really is getting very tedious.
As long as the polls continue to look like this, and this country remains the raciest s**thole that it is.

Ah yes, the polls; always a highly accurate measurement of fact or even actual opinion.
Let me share with you a little joke that an old boy from Alabama shared with me.
Bear with me because it’s relevant.
Two guys are in a car speeding on an Alabama highway and get pulled over.
A salty Alabama state trooper gets out of his unit and walks up to the driver’s side and the driver opens his window.
“What seems to be the problem, officer?”, the driver asks in an annoyingly innocent and belittling tone.
SMACK The trooper swiftly reaches in and smacks the driver upside the head.
“Mister, when you get pulled over by an Alabama state trooper you best have your license, registration, and proof of insurance ready to hand over by the time I walk up to you, ya hear?”, snarls the trooper.
The driver, visibly shaken, digs around and gives the trooper what he was supposed to and the trooper returns to his unit to run the license and write the ticket.
Both the driver and passenger just sit there in silent shock the whole time the trooper is back in his unit..
The trooper eventually comes back and kindly gives the driver back his license, registration, and ticket. The trooper then walks around to the passenger side and taps on the window. Confused the, passenger opens his window.
SMACK, the trooper wops him upside the head.
“What did you do that for?”, the passenger wales.
“I’m making your wish come true in advance”, says the trooper.
“I, I don’t know what you mean!”, stammers the passenger.
“Because, son, as soon as we parted ways and y'all got back on the road the first thing you were going to say to your buddy is “Boy, I wish that motherf*cker had smacked me upside the head like that!”
The moral of this story you ask? It’s that what we say we would have done isn't always we actually would have done if we actually had the opportunity. This applies to what people claim they would have done if on a jury, too.
This is a Huffington Post poll, anyway, so go figure.
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One thing is for sure, he'd better watch himself. If he has any instinct toward finding trouble it's best curbed. OJ skated only to find his personality eventually leading him into trouble again and back to what is essentially life in prison. But OJ is an athlete with a following in prison. He can survive prison. Zimmerman, not so much now. His golden ticket came with a big fat asterisk.
Meanwhile Paula Deen and Zimmerman are coming out with a cook book together,it will be titled You Kill Them,I'll Grill Them," with such favorites as Racial Tension Three Bean Salad, Jump Up And Riot Jambalaya,and Keepin' The Shi*t Pot Stirred Stew.
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Misslizard wrote:
Meanwhile Paula Deen and Zimmerman are coming out with a cook book together,it will be titled You Kill Them,I'll Grill Them," with such favorites as Racial Tension Three Bean Salad, Jump Up And Riot Jambalaya,and Keepin' The Shi*t Pot Stirred Stew.
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redriverronin wrote:
Max000 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
How long are you and yours going to continue to bring race into this?
It really is getting very tedious.
It really is getting very tedious.
As long as the polls continue to look like this, and this country remains the raciest s**thole that it is.

As long as the polls look like that we know we are still living in a free country the truth hurts now do something besides try to make criminals into victims and victims into criminals. Black people don't deserve any special treatment anymore than Asians whites arabs or latinos until people like you understand that there will always be racism there are no special people.
You are missing the point.
vermontsavant wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Meanwhile Paula Deen and Zimmerman are coming out with a cook book together,it will be titled You Kill Them,I'll Grill Them," with such favorites as Racial Tension Three Bean Salad, Jump Up And Riot Jambalaya,and Keepin' The Shi*t Pot Stirred Stew.

Dantac wrote:
LKL wrote:
@ Max: the injuries on the police videos don't look fake to me, but neither do they look like he was in any significant peril.
Seriously? How about you go to the roughest part of your town tonight and when you get jumped do kindly resist and fight. Then come back and tell me you did not feel you were in any significant peril.
After all, when your face is getting bashed in and slammed on the pavement it is nothing but foreplay isn't it?
If my face, or the back of my head, is being bashed into the pavement, I would end up looking significantly worse for wear than did Zimmerman immediately after the incident. I spend a lot of time in the ER, and Zimmerman doesn't even look like he was in a serious fistfight. Hell, I got (and gave) worse damage from fistfights when I was in the first grade.
Dox47 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
Actually, that was my entire *point*. If people are going to introduce frivolous "evidence", then they should do so symmetrically (not just against Martin, but against Zimmerman as well). I will gladly retreat from any such behaviour against Zimmerman once the Trayvon Martin haters on WP do the same.
To what end? So you are just as covered in sh*t as they are?
I also have to take issue with your characterization of people, you seem to be completely discounting the idea that people are digging into Martin's background in order to shed light on the situation rather than out of malice towards him. I also haven't seen you post anything but venom against Zimmerman, so apparently you're not subject to the standard you're demanding of other people; there's a word for that.
I have repeatedly pointed out that Zimmerman had to go to court twice for charges involving violence all the while people have been make numerous false claims about Trayvon Martin (and I do not recall you being very vigilant in debunking those false claims).
Is that venom? Are you claiming that my account of Zimmerman's record is incorrect?
Furthermore, what you claimed I said:
Dox47 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
And at least I got the facts straight.
Yes, you went the Michael Moore route and simply posted misleading images and let people draw their own conclusions.
GGPViper wrote:
Releasing Martin's own words and photos constitutes a "racist attempt at character assassination? When the Martin Family attorneys were trying to do the exact same thing to Zimmerman, not to mention going on every talk show that would have them and painting him as a racist murderer? While he was on trial for his life? Do me a favor, don't ever lecture anyone about bias again, I might throw up a little bit and I hate doing that.
What I *actually* said:
GGPViper wrote:
And at least I got the facts straight.
Was any of that done by George Zimmerman? Do you normally retaliate against third parties for the actions of other not affiliated with them or otherwise under their control?
Yes, it was.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/05/23/zi ... tos-texts/
Dox47 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
However, given the blatant, frequent (and in some cases - likely racist) attempts at character assassination against Trayvon Martin by introducing completely frivolous information about his past behaviour, I consider myself well within my rights to paint the character of George Zimmerman in a less than flattering light.
Was any of that done by George Zimmerman? Do you normally retaliate against third parties for the actions of other not affiliated with them or otherwise under their control?
Yes, it was.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/05/23/zi ... tos-texts/
If you feel an urge to compare me with Michael Moore and/or throw up please make sure that it is due to actual actions of mine and not selective quotes from my posts. There is a word (actually, two words) for that too, you know...
Dox47 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
And his defense team even had to apologize publicly for misrepresenting evidence:
http://www.gzlegalcase.com/index.php/pr ... rtin-video.
http://www.gzlegalcase.com/index.php/pr ... rtin-video.
Ooh, they mis-captioned a video and then apologized for it, obviously off with their heads...
They presented it in court on 28 May 2013. This is readily apparent in the link I posted.
Dox47 wrote:
Really, I wouldn't even be bugging you about this if it wasn't for the personal double standard on display, that's a bit of a pet peeve of mine.
So far, all I have seen from you is an ad hominem attack against me based on some sort of belief irrelevant to this thread that I am to be held to a different standard than other WP posters. I find that unwarranted.
Max000 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
/\ There is no point.
There is a point.
Your point which doesn't qualify as a point with me.
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You just don't want to deal with it.
Deal with it how, a lynch mob for Zimmerman? Maybe some bogus federal civil rights trial?
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GGPViper wrote:
So far, all I have seen from you is an ad hominem attack against me based on some sort of belief irrelevant to this thread that I am to be held to a different standard than other WP posters. I find that unwarranted.
Pointing out the standard that you're applying to others but not yourself is now an ad hominem? You've posted images claiming that Zimmerman provoked the fight in order to shoot Martin and that he targeted him for his choice in wardrobe, respectively, and when called have defended yourself with "other people were doing it first!" and an odd claim about "defending" Martin by smearing Zimmerman. This doesn't jibe with the way you choose to present yourself here.
Also, I'm under no obligation to debunk any and all stupid claims made in here, that would be a truly Sisyphean task, but by claiming to be acting against biased people, you sort of force the obligation to act with an even hand on yourself lest the hypocrite charge be leveled. Or, you could just surrender your high horse and admit you're part of the mob like the rest of the poo flinging monkeys. Your choice.
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Dox47 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
So far, all I have seen from you is an ad hominem attack against me based on some sort of belief irrelevant to this thread that I am to be held to a different standard than other WP posters. I find that unwarranted.
Pointing out the standard that you're applying to others but not yourself is now an ad hominem? You've posted images claiming that Zimmerman provoked the fight in order to shoot Martin and that he targeted him for his choice in wardrobe, respectively, and when called have defended yourself with "other people were doing it first!" and an odd claim about "defending" Martin by smearing Zimmerman. This doesn't jibe with the way you choose to present yourself here.
I posted two joke images (one even being a rage comic - and the other being a critique of Geraldo Rivera, not George Zimmerman), and in both cases I explicitly stated that they were not to be taken seriously.
Here:
https://www.wrongplanet.net/postp551483 ... t=#5514831
And here:
https://www.wrongplanet.net/postp551605 ... t=#5516051
And in case you haven't noticed, I post joke images all the time. Once again, you seem more concerned with my obviously facetious statements than the obviously fallacious statements of other posters in this thread.
And what on Earth is "the way you choose to present yourself here"? Do you have privileged access to my inner thoughts?
Dox47 wrote:
Also, I'm under no obligation to debunk any and all stupid claims made in here, that would be a truly Sisyphean task, but by claiming to be acting against biased people, you sort of force the obligation to act with an even hand on yourself lest the hypocrite charge be leveled. Or, you could just surrender your high horse and admit you're part of the mob like the rest of the poo flinging monkeys. Your choice.
I am acting against biased people (or people otherwise divorced from the facts, often by no fault of their own) by proving them *wrong*, either by asking them to provide sources or by providing my own - reputable - sources. I also joke around, because that's the way I am. You, however, are filing charges of hypocrisy against me simply on the basis of two obvious jokes.
Seriously: Why do you hound me, and only me?
GGPViper wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
So far, all I have seen from you is an ad hominem attack against me based on some sort of belief irrelevant to this thread that I am to be held to a different standard than other WP posters. I find that unwarranted.
Pointing out the standard that you're applying to others but not yourself is now an ad hominem? You've posted images claiming that Zimmerman provoked the fight in order to shoot Martin and that he targeted him for his choice in wardrobe, respectively, and when called have defended yourself with "other people were doing it first!" and an odd claim about "defending" Martin by smearing Zimmerman. This doesn't jibe with the way you choose to present yourself here.
I posted two joke images (one even being a rage comic - and the other being a critique of Geraldo Rivera, not George Zimmerman), and in both cases I explicitly stated that they were not to be taken seriously.
Here:
https://www.wrongplanet.net/postp551483 ... t=#5514831
And here:
https://www.wrongplanet.net/postp551605 ... t=#5516051
And in case you haven't noticed, I post joke images all the time. Once again, you seem more concerned with my obviously facetious statements than the obviously fallacious statements of other posters in this thread.
And what on Earth is "the way you choose to present yourself here"? Do you have privileged access to my inner thoughts?
Dox47 wrote:
Also, I'm under no obligation to debunk any and all stupid claims made in here, that would be a truly Sisyphean task, but by claiming to be acting against biased people, you sort of force the obligation to act with an even hand on yourself lest the hypocrite charge be leveled. Or, you could just surrender your high horse and admit you're part of the mob like the rest of the poo flinging monkeys. Your choice.
I am acting against biased people (or people otherwise divorced from the facts, often by no fault of their own) by proving them *wrong*, either by asking them to provide sources or by providing my own - reputable - sources. I also joke around, because that's the way I am. You, however, are filing charges of hypocrisy against me simply on the basis of two obvious jokes.
Seriously: Why do you hound me, and only me?
I myself am curios as to why you've enthusiastically jumped on the "hang Zimmerman" bandwagon when there is no hard evidence supporting guilt or even apparent malice on behalf of Zimmerman.
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