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Is being gay normal or wrong?
It's perfectly normal, of course! 31%  31%  [ 193 ]
It's perfectly normal, of course! 31%  31%  [ 194 ]
It's wrong and people should be punished for such sodomy! 5%  5%  [ 34 ]
It's wrong and people should be punished for such sodomy! 5%  5%  [ 34 ]
It's really none of my business. 14%  14%  [ 85 ]
It's really none of my business. 14%  14%  [ 85 ]
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23 Sep 2005, 1:06 pm

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I don't get this at all thankfully. Are we saying that people should submit a CV before sex? That people are free from all blame if someone "misleads" them? Should we administer corporal punishment to the 99.9 (recurring)% of the UK baseball cap wearing people in the UK who don't play baseball? IF I buy a biscuit and don't like it because the chocolate is not as I thought it should be, can I burn the factory down?


I believe you are trivialising sex. I think it should be down on the law book as statutory rape. That program "something about maria" or something like that tricked people into shenanigans with a tranny and judging by the settlement package the contestants got for it Sky television knew this was wrong and punishable.



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23 Sep 2005, 2:08 pm

Sorry, I don't think there is any excuse for beating someone up/killing them in this. If I have sex with someone then I am responsible for ensuring it is safe to do so and that there is nothing objectionable to me involved. I can't just rush in and blame everyone else afterwards if things go wrong. As to trusting Sky with my or anyone elses integrity, that an offence in my book.



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23 Sep 2005, 2:20 pm

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I do think it should be ilegal for a tranny to have any sort of shenanigans with anyone who doesnt realise the original sex of him.


Ok, let me ask this.

SHould this hold through despite the genitial status? Or what the birth certificate says?

Pre op/transtion people need to be careful, but are the people who go through it supposed to wear it forever?

Just curious.



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23 Sep 2005, 2:39 pm

Yes if you were born one sex you should let everyone you are having any sort of sexual contact with know before you have that contact. Pretending to be a woman and having people you have sexual contact with think you are is deception and morally wrong. Punishable by a kicking imo. I have no objections with anyone having sex with a tranny providing they know that the person is one.



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23 Sep 2005, 2:43 pm

It shouldn't be made the law. It's not something they should do, and yes I'd be pretty pissed off if someone did that to me, but I don't think there should be a law about it. Being tricked like that is a bad thing, but compared to beating someone to death, it's trivial.

As far as the There's Something About Miriam show goes, anyone who's stupid enough to go on a reality show deserves what they get. If that doesn't put people off from going on these shows, I dunno what will. Reality shows are just mind rotting BS made by corporate media to encourage real life bullying with the way they always have people being voted off.


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23 Sep 2005, 3:08 pm

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Yes if you were born one sex you should let everyone you are having any sort of sexual contact with know before you have that contact. Pretending to be a woman and having people you have sexual contact with think you are is deception and morally wrong. Punishable by a kicking imo. I have no objections with anyone having sex with a tranny providing they know that the person is one.


People who finish surgery are not "pretending to be women" So you think that people have the right to ignore state issued birth certificates for your religious predjudice? Maybe if you live in a theocracy.

These people are quite legally female. Genitally and hormonally. Unless you live in England of course, but they are a bit backwards that way.

Are you obliged to admit genetic illnesses too? How about if you have a history of heart problems? XXY? XYY? or any of the other amusing genetic abnromalities? Its not that simple.

Personally I think if you don't tell the person you are risking your life, but that is the fault of real bigots not "pretend women" .

Don't confuse people who transition or are transtioning with crossdressers.

May I suggest getting your sex ed somwhere other than porno sites...........?



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23 Sep 2005, 3:14 pm

That is pretty much the reason why it shouldn't be made law.


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23 Sep 2005, 3:19 pm

What im saying is, if you are born with a weener then you should let someone know that before you have any sort of intercourse with them. There should be a law against it as much for the transexuals sake as anyones. Heart problems are nothing to do with the issue. That's more silliness. No-one has sex with hearts save for necropheliacs maybe. I fully agree with transexuals not being recognised legally as women cos they arent.



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23 Sep 2005, 5:02 pm

as i've posted somewhere else, the law in the UK is about to be changed:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 20,00.html

so there is hope for this daft country, in some areas, anyway.



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23 Sep 2005, 9:11 pm

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What im saying is, if you are born with a weener then you should let someone know that before you have any sort of intercourse with them. There should be a law against it as much for the transexuals sake as anyones. .........I fully agree with transexuals not being recognised legally as women cos they arent.


Weener? How old are you? 12? ITs called a penis, and if youa re going to play with the grownups use the grownup words.


But they are, and its legal. You lose again.

The few places left Genital affirmation surgery is NOT accepted are religious dictatorships, even Great Britan is coming around. You know, before I met you I had a high opinion of Scotland in general, But its not fair to blame them for you, every group has your ilk. ll just assume you are a sad little git there too.

Why do you hate it so much? Its obviousy a topic near and dear to your heart for you to hold it so viciously. Got something you need to let off your chest? :)

Assuming you ever had a date did you get your hand up a skirt and meet the "last turkey in the shop? " or what was it?


Keep going, I want to see how much bile your black little heart holds. ;)



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23 Sep 2005, 9:12 pm

vetivert wrote:
as i've posted somewhere else, the law in the UK is about to be changed:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 20,00.html

so there is hope for this daft country, in some areas, anyway.



Well thats good, though I'm glad to say it says "who have had surgery" I've dealt with CDs who think they shoud be able to change it just becuse they want to.



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23 Sep 2005, 9:23 pm

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Weener? How old are you? 12? ITs called a penis, and if youa re going to play with the grownups use the grownup words.


But they are, and its legal. You lose again.

The few places left Genital affirmation surgery is NOT accepted are religious dictatorships, even Great Britan is coming around. You know, before I met you I had a high opinion of Scotland in general, But its not fair to blame them for you, every group has your ilk. ll just assume you are a sad little git there too.

Why do you hate it so much? Its obviousy a topic near and dear to your heart for you to hold it so viciously. Got something you need to let off your chest? :)

Assuming you ever had a date did you get your hand up a skirt and meet the "last turkey in the shop? " or what was it?


Keep going, I want to see how much bile your black little heart holds. ;)


Spoken with the kind of rage only a big, hairy, fat, feminist lezzer could muster. Give it up will you, just because you are too ugly for any man to consider having intercourse with isnt a good reason to hate men.



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23 Sep 2005, 9:28 pm

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Spoken with the kind of rage only a big, hairy, fat, feminist lezzer could muster. Give it up will you, just because you are too ugly for any man to consider having intercourse with isnt a good reason to hate men.



Yep, you can't be a day over 15.........

I like men, as friends, I leave that kind of petty small minded hate to you. :)

I like women, some people like men, some people like coke, some like pepsi, some like freedom, some are you. ;)


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23 Sep 2005, 9:34 pm

Well your more than a few days over 75, ive seen your photo and that avatar is flattering to say the least. Though i suppose if you're paying him for it he has to draw someone much younger and better looking. What do you mean some are me , there is only one me. It is a standard bigot tactic to make out people with an opinion that doesnt agree with yours are all the same.

You claim im childish but you havent managed to disagree with someones point without attacking the person. You are lacking any class. I suppose thats why you travel round in a wnnebago. Cause no area would put up with you for too long.



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23 Sep 2005, 9:53 pm

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Well your more than a few days over 75, ive seen your photo. Wat do you mean some are me you facist , there is only one me. It is a standard bigot tactic to make out people with an opinion that doesnt agree with yours are all the same.

You claim im childish but you havent managed to disagree with someones point without attacking the person. You are lacking any class. I suppose thats why you travel round in a wnnebago. Cause no area would put up with you for too long.



Nice try, how old are you? why do you have a blind hate for anyone not like you? I really want to know.

I bug you becuse you don't argue you just tell us how much you hate people, but not why.

I doubt you know. I did't claim you were childish, I claimed you were a child. Reading comprehension is SO important.

Actually I'm, 40 don't laugh you will be 40 too in about 28 years. :)

I've owned my own home, I just sold it. How about you? Lets see if you do well enough to retire at 40. :)

And I love that the guy who calls male genitalia "weener" and spends most of his time posting homophobic slurs thinks "I" have no class! You are just TOO good. :)

And the guy who calls ME a fascist thinks transtioners need to be marked so hes not "contaminated" by "pretend women" want to see fascist sonny, may I suggest a mirror?

I've made statements and asked quetions you answer with insults, libel and fabrication, start defending or explaing your view and perhaps people will take you seriously.

So far your arguments for hate amount to "its unnatural" "it disgusts you" and "it should be illegal"

Try harder or take it out and bring it back when it grows up.



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23 Sep 2005, 10:00 pm

Stop with the personal attacks. Forum Guidelines



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