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07 May 2010, 6:10 pm

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On the subject of redistributing wealth, I disagree with it. This isn't communism, it's a capitilist society.


You can have a moderate and fair redistribution of wealth without communism or even socialism. Any increase in wealth for the most wealthy is unjust without a proportionate improvement of the situation for the worst off.

Not that Obama, Brown has the balls to see this through.



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07 May 2010, 6:58 pm

Whenever I see, or hear about Gordon Brown .. I think of this song [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHVvbnmgjM[/youtube]

Always a clown, that Gordon Brownnn



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07 May 2010, 11:44 pm

The irrational market must not be trusted to divvy up the wealth.



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08 May 2010, 3:32 am

Taxation is very good mechanism of delivering some means of social equality.



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08 May 2010, 8:57 am

HermanTheTosser wrote:
Taxation is very good mechanism of delivering some means of social equality.


Have you ever read the myth of Procrustes. He found a way of equalizing things, too.

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08 May 2010, 9:46 am

He should have simply implemented a form of progressive taxation instead. :)



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08 May 2010, 1:22 pm

Actually, a flat taxation regime or better still, a poll taxation regime, as the Right wants, better fits the analogy of Procrustes' bed.



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09 May 2010, 4:20 am

Knock knock

Who's there?

David

David who?

Stop being stupid, Gordon, just open the door and get out of my house.



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11 May 2010, 9:42 am

Here's the latest opinion on Brown in the streets.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rL9KLtMIVs[/youtube]



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11 May 2010, 9:49 am

HermanTheTosser wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
On the subject of redistributing wealth, I disagree with it. This isn't communism, it's a capitilist society.


You can have a moderate and fair redistribution of wealth without communism or even socialism. Any increase in wealth for the most wealthy is unjust without a proportionate improvement of the situation for the worst off.

Not that Obama, Brown has the balls to see this through.


Generally speaking, wealthy people are wealthy because they chose to do something that could make them wealthy, e.g. start a business, then worked to build that business up and make it profitable. Maybe some of their ventures failed and they found motivation to keep trying again. The bottom line is that most rich people earned their money through hard work, and people who aren't rich could easily quit their job and start their own business if they were motivated enough to earn that much money for themselves - even poor people living in council flats in bad areas can do it, if anything they have more of a chance because they have less to lose when they take the risk of starting a business.

Therefore, I think those people are entitled to their money - they worked for it, and the poor people had just as much opportunity to get rich themselves - it's not like you need private education to be entrepreneurial. And if a system was put in place to take rich peoples' money and "redistribute" it, they'd all move to tax havens anyway, which would just damage our economy and GDP.



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15 May 2010, 4:46 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
HermanTheTosser wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
On the subject of redistributing wealth, I disagree with it. This isn't communism, it's a capitilist society.


You can have a moderate and fair redistribution of wealth without communism or even socialism. Any increase in wealth for the most wealthy is unjust without a proportionate improvement of the situation for the worst off.

Not that Obama, Brown has the balls to see this through.


Generally speaking, wealthy people are wealthy because they chose to do something that could make them wealthy, e.g. start a business, then worked to build that business up and make it profitable. Maybe some of their ventures failed and they found motivation to keep trying again. The bottom line is that most rich people earned their money through hard work, and people who aren't rich could easily quit their job and start their own business if they were motivated enough to earn that much money for themselves - even poor people living in council flats in bad areas can do it, if anything they have more of a chance because they have less to lose when they take the risk of starting a business.

Therefore, I think those people are entitled to their money - they worked for it, and the poor people had just as much opportunity to get rich themselves - it's not like you need private education to be entrepreneurial. And if a system was put in place to take rich peoples' money and "redistribute" it, they'd all move to tax havens anyway, which would just damage our economy and GDP.

Did you watch Junior Apprentice? :D



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17 May 2010, 4:33 am

Have I Got News For You did a clip selection on his awkward smile and his extreme difficulty in shaking other peoples hands. Every time he struggled to know when or how to start a handshake and had to take extra time to think about when to accept a handshake I cringed and thought maybe. He had failed handshakes and lots of them. I know he struggles with vision but the people around him seemed so much more comfortable and fluid with social group behaviour and greetings.
Hardly a good advert for AS though.



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17 May 2010, 4:46 am

enid wrote:

dont think that woman was a bigot- only white people ever get called this. ever noticed that noone ever says to muslims that saying women have half the value of men, or that women belong to men, or that women should cover themselves up including 3 year old girls, or that women cause earthquakes- is bigoted. or to african or east europeans that homophobia and discrimination against women, again, a part of their culture, is unacceptable and bigoted. ha ha- hornets nest stirred.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ap ... ran-cleric


So you start of with colour and then relate it to religion. You are a bigot.

A large number of people have problems with people of the Muslim faith. For a start type "kill all" into Google and the second suggestion is "Muslims".

You haven't stirred a hornets nest you are just an idiot.



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17 May 2010, 10:55 am

rmgh wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
HermanTheTosser wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
On the subject of redistributing wealth, I disagree with it. This isn't communism, it's a capitilist society.


You can have a moderate and fair redistribution of wealth without communism or even socialism. Any increase in wealth for the most wealthy is unjust without a proportionate improvement of the situation for the worst off.

Not that Obama, Brown has the balls to see this through.


Generally speaking, wealthy people are wealthy because they chose to do something that could make them wealthy, e.g. start a business, then worked to build that business up and make it profitable. Maybe some of their ventures failed and they found motivation to keep trying again. The bottom line is that most rich people earned their money through hard work, and people who aren't rich could easily quit their job and start their own business if they were motivated enough to earn that much money for themselves - even poor people living in council flats in bad areas can do it, if anything they have more of a chance because they have less to lose when they take the risk of starting a business.

Therefore, I think those people are entitled to their money - they worked for it, and the poor people had just as much opportunity to get rich themselves - it's not like you need private education to be entrepreneurial. And if a system was put in place to take rich peoples' money and "redistribute" it, they'd all move to tax havens anyway, which would just damage our economy and GDP.

Did you watch Junior Apprentice? :D


Yup, I did! Was very good! My friend tells me I'm like Jordan because I'm "good with business but not with people" :lol:



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17 May 2010, 12:02 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
rmgh wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
HermanTheTosser wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
On the subject of redistributing wealth, I disagree with it. This isn't communism, it's a capitilist society.


You can have a moderate and fair redistribution of wealth without communism or even socialism. Any increase in wealth for the most wealthy is unjust without a proportionate improvement of the situation for the worst off.

Not that Obama, Brown has the balls to see this through.


Generally speaking, wealthy people are wealthy because they chose to do something that could make them wealthy, e.g. start a business, then worked to build that business up and make it profitable. Maybe some of their ventures failed and they found motivation to keep trying again. The bottom line is that most rich people earned their money through hard work, and people who aren't rich could easily quit their job and start their own business if they were motivated enough to earn that much money for themselves - even poor people living in council flats in bad areas can do it, if anything they have more of a chance because they have less to lose when they take the risk of starting a business.

Therefore, I think those people are entitled to their money - they worked for it, and the poor people had just as much opportunity to get rich themselves - it's not like you need private education to be entrepreneurial. And if a system was put in place to take rich peoples' money and "redistribute" it, they'd all move to tax havens anyway, which would just damage our economy and GDP.

Did you watch Junior Apprentice? :D


Yup, I did! Was very good! My friend tells me I'm like Jordan because I'm "good with business but not with people" :lol:

It was good. Haha! I thought he was really good. That's probably why they picked on him because they knew he would be tough competition. 8O



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01 Sep 2010, 5:13 pm

Guardian report on Tony Blair's Book


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