Israel/Palestine, how to find out the truth??

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18 Mar 2011, 5:24 pm

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I hope this helps you OP, here are some books I've flicked through with stuff about the conflict in them. the first two are strongly pro-israel and anti-arab and have all their main arguements. all the rest are more anti occupation.

Nothing from Norman Finkelstein?

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18 Mar 2011, 5:49 pm

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@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

I suggest and (have suggest to any family that lives in that horrid place) America. Jew should live in America.
America is the best place for the jews. there is no country we have done better in. there is no country better for us.
America
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America
the only reason to live in israel is to fulfill a xtian religious mania
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You do realize Jerusalem is their most holy site, in fact I think it is the only holy city in the Jewish faith.

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18 Mar 2011, 5:55 pm

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Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

You do realize Jerusalem is their most holy site, in fact I think it is the only holy city in the Jewish faith.

You know, I do fine without having a holy city.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:02 pm

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@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

You do realize Jerusalem is their most holy site, in fact I think it is the only holy city in the Jewish faith.

thanks for teaching me Judaism. ( :roll:

now is is you who recieves the eye roll)
without the temple Jerusalem is about as holy as Newark and slightly less holy than Miami
it is more important to apocolyptic xtians end of the world fantasy to have the Jews there.
I say Jerusalem shmrulem meh.
-Jake

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18 Mar 2011, 6:05 pm

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And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

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18 Mar 2011, 6:09 pm

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@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:27 pm

skafather84 wrote:

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Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Also maybe the Native Americans should tell every black, white, asian person to go back to Europe...

Seriously, the Israelis are there to stay and the Palestinians need to get over it, work something out with the Israelis because they have no place to go.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:33 pm

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Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Probably most of the Western world is fine with Jews. Certainly New York and Florida are quite hospitable to Jews.

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Seriously, the Israelis are there to stay and the Palestinians need to get over it, work something out with the Israelis because they have no place to go.

The Israelis have plenty of places they could go. The Palestinians, on the other hand, really have no place to go.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:35 pm

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@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

i started with the 2 fascist books to make it balanced didnt i.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:36 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

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Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Not really. Just the Eastern part that's still hurting/run down. I don't think it'd be as hospitable over there as here but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:37 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

They can and do come to America. My family did.
America is the real Zion.
the one that stay in Israel can do so but must first admit that if they are realy Jews than they are also Arabs
and should embrace arab-nationalism.
-Jake

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18 Mar 2011, 6:42 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Not really. Just the Eastern part that's still hurting/run down. I don't think it'd be as hospitable over there as here but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.

It's on the rise in the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Greece, etc.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/333648.aspx

hill-o-beans wrote:

i started with the 2 fascist books to make it balanced didnt i.

Actually you just proved you aren't even remotely objective on this issue.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:44 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Not really. Just the Eastern part that's still hurting/run down. I don't think it'd be as hospitable over there as here but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.

It's on the rise in the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Greece, etc.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/333648.aspx

hill-o-beans wrote:

i started with the 2 fascist books to make it balanced didnt i.

Actually you just proved you aren't even remotely objective on this issue.

this is why America.
America is the place for the Jews.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:46 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Not really. Just the Eastern part that's still hurting/run down. I don't think it'd be as hospitable over there as here but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.

It's on the rise in the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Greece, etc.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/333648.aspx

That site has good reason to spread such propaganda considering that they have a vested interest in Israel being Israel.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:50 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Not really. Just the Eastern part that's still hurting/run down. I don't think it'd be as hospitable over there as here but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.

It's on the rise in the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Greece, etc.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/333648.aspx

hill-o-beans wrote:

i started with the 2 fascist books to make it balanced didnt i.

Actually you just proved you aren't even remotely objective on this issue.

this is why America.
America is the place for the Jews.

Actually Israelis do have a claim on the land there, it is literally their homeland. Okay that's it if you are in the United States you have to go back to Europe. This is Native American Territory, that means all white people, black people, etc. that do not have any Native American blood have to go back to Europe.

If we're going by ancient claims, Israelis still have a legit claim on the land, cause they are from there.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:54 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

@ hill-of-beans

And where are you suggesting the Israelis go, I guarentee you the don't want to be in Europe with its history of anti-sematism.

Um... modern Europe is fine for Jews. Hitler's dead. Do you really think Jews are safer sitting in the middle of the Muslim world than would be in, say, Belgium?

France still sucks for Jews, though. At least from what I read from the papers.

Heard most of Europe has a serious anti-sematism issue, so why should any Israeli want to go to Europe.

Not really. Just the Eastern part that's still hurting/run down. I don't think it'd be as hospitable over there as here but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.

It's on the rise in the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Greece, etc.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/333648.aspx

hill-o-beans wrote:

i started with the 2 fascist books to make it balanced didnt i.

Actually you just proved you aren't even remotely objective on this issue.

this is why America.
America is the place for the Jews.

claim shmlaim it is a better personal choice for any jewish person to live in the U.S.
or Canada so america america america. North american is the homeland for the Jews.
-Jake

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