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Your thoughts about Donald Trump?
He is a capitalist parasite turd if there ever was one and ought to be impaled Vlad Tepes style 35%  35%  [ 12 ]
He is a corrupt scumbag....but there are more revolting humans 41%  41%  [ 14 ]
He has bad hair and looks like a flesh-colored Koi, but I can deal with him. 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
He is decent fellow with some faults like the rest of us, but I think he'd make a decent commander-in-chief 12%  12%  [ 4 ]
He should be canonized by the Church of Ayn Rand, we all owe him a debt of gratitude and you can suck eggs in hell Horus 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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13 Apr 2011, 12:38 am

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I'd support protectionism (if we insist upon a capitalist economic system in any form that is) and troop withdrawal, but neither position is exclusive to the left of course.

In fact.....I hear way more about protectionism these days from people like Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul and other rightists.

As for troop withdrawal....I also hear quite a bit about that (and agree with it....and feel like i'm agreeing with devils...LOL) from the same sort of people.


Donald Trump did consider running for the Reform Party in 2000 (Pat Buchanan's former party).




As inexpressibly absurd and unspeakably horrifying as it is....I think Trump actually has a fighting chance of being the next president of the United States provided he runs of course.

Consider the preposterous morons and viperous sociopaths hundreds of millions of Americans have cast their vote for. The did so through the entire 20th century and this proud American tradition has continued, with great virulency, to this day. :roll:


William Jennings Byran?....a "liberal democrat" to be sure....but a bats**t christian maniac if there ever was one.

Joseph McCarthy?...need I comment upon the monstrous insanity of this man?

Sarah Palin.....are you f**king kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I truly believe this sort of idiocy qualifies as evidence for a gene pool in America that is more polluted than the love canal ever was :lol:


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13 Apr 2011, 12:43 am

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As inexpressibly absurd and unspeakably horrifying as it is....I think Trump actually has a fighting chance of being the next president of the United States provided he runs of course.


Cenk Uygur, Jacoby, and a lot think he's faking this run. But I think there's a pretty good chance he'll run - he's going very deep into the birtherism stuff, energizing the Tea Party crowd, and is the Tea Party favourite out of various probably contenders. He has the money to become the plutocrat in chief.

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William Jennings Byran?....a "liberal democrat" to be sure....but a bats**t christian maniac if there ever was one.


Bryan was really an old school populist. While he was wrong as hell on science, prohibition and the place of religion in government, he was right about the gold standard and a lot of important policies. In many ways he's economically leaps and bounds ahead of the corporate welfare statists America has at the helm today.


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13 Apr 2011, 12:51 am

If Obama was born in the US then there is probably something on his birth certificate that he doesn't want people to see. His mother may have been underage when she conceived Obama, for example.



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13 Apr 2011, 1:00 am

Horus wrote:
I'd support protectionism (if we insist upon a capitalist economic system in any form that is) and troop withdrawal, but neither position is exclusive to the left of course.

In fact.....I hear way more about protectionism these days from people like Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul and other rightists.

As for troop withdrawal....I also hear quite a bit about that (and agree with it....and feel like i'm agreeing with devils...LOL) from the same sort of people.


I think you misunderstand Paul's position on NAFTA, WTO, etc. as being against free trade and thus protectionist. NAFTA is not really free trade despite the name; there is really nothing "free" about it. It is "managed trade" with hundreds rules and stipulations and whatever.

But yea, Trump and Buchanan are big proponents of protectionism.



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13 Apr 2011, 1:04 am

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If Obama was born in the US then there is probably something on his birth certificate that he doesn't want people to see. His mother may have been underage when she conceived Obama, for example.


You mean he's embarrassed about this...

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

or this...

http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/ ... icate.html


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13 Apr 2011, 1:14 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
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If Obama was born in the US then there is probably something on his birth certificate that he doesn't want people to see. His mother may have been underage when she conceived Obama, for example.


You mean he's embarrassed about this...

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

or this...

http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/ ... icate.html


The first link is broken. The second link takes me to a website with an image of Obama's certificate of live birth, not his birth certificate.



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13 Apr 2011, 1:51 am

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William Jennings Byran?....a "liberal democrat" to be sure....but a bats**t christian maniac if there ever was one.

Joseph McCarthy?...need I comment upon the monstrous insanity of this man?

Sarah Palin.....are you f**king kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I truly believe this sort of idiocy qualifies as evidence for a gene pool in America that is more polluted than the love canal ever was :lol:

Bryan had a crappy sense of economics and would have been too weak at foreign policy to win the Spanish-American war and would have hindered America's rise to superpower status. He didn't appear to be a sociopath, and if you examine his religious views in the context of the time he lived in rather than in the context of modern self-righteous liberal standards, you would realize that his religious views were pretty typical back then.

McCarthy would have been great! He had a great grasp of what was at stake in the cold war and a great gift of foresight to see how subversive communists and their sympathizers could be, especially in the media. He was probably a narcissist, but not a sociopath.

Palin has a really good understanding of economics and energy policy, and appears to be a fast learner when it comes to national security. At times, her own mouth is her worst enemy. She may be eccentric, but that should not be mistaken for stupidity or sociopathic behavior.


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13 Apr 2011, 6:50 am

John_Browning wrote:
Horus wrote:
William Jennings Byran?....a "liberal democrat" to be sure....but a bats**t christian maniac if there ever was one.

Joseph McCarthy?...need I comment upon the monstrous insanity of this man?

Sarah Palin.....are you f**king kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I truly believe this sort of idiocy qualifies as evidence for a gene pool in America that is more polluted than the love canal ever was :lol:

Bryan had a crappy sense of economics and would have been too weak at foreign policy to win the Spanish-American war and would have hindered America's rise to superpower status. He didn't appear to be a sociopath, and if you examine his religious views in the context of the time he lived in rather than in the context of modern self-righteous liberal standards, you would realize that his religious views were pretty typical back then.

McCarthy would have been great! He had a great grasp of what was at stake in the cold war and a great gift of foresight to see how subversive communists and their sympathizers could be, especially in the media. He was probably a narcissist, but not a sociopath.

Palin has a really good understanding of economics and energy policy, and appears to be a fast learner when it comes to national security. At times, her own mouth is her worst enemy. She may be eccentric, but that should not be mistaken for stupidity or sociopathic behavior.


The communist threat in america was in my oppion a moral panic. McCarthy was a moron.
saying Palin has a Really good understanding of economics and appears to be a fast learner at anything but self promotion
make me think that you don't have a really good understanding of palin.


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13 Apr 2011, 6:59 am

About Palin from over here when she was running for VP. :lol:

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13 Apr 2011, 7:28 am

Interesting hair. Obviously not entirely sane.


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13 Apr 2011, 9:29 am

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Interesting hair. Obviously not entirely sane.





Sociopathy, psychotic signs and borderline intellectual functioning aren't exactly vice presidential qualities eh? :wink:


Then again....they (or some configuration of these three....sociopathy almost always being one at least) often are in Muruka'.

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13 Apr 2011, 8:23 pm

Trump proposes stealing Iraq's oil as "spoils of war". The man belongs in prison.



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13 Apr 2011, 8:37 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Horus wrote:
William Jennings Byran?....a "liberal democrat" to be sure....but a bats**t christian maniac if there ever was one.

Joseph McCarthy?...need I comment upon the monstrous insanity of this man?

Sarah Palin.....are you f**king kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I truly believe this sort of idiocy qualifies as evidence for a gene pool in America that is more polluted than the love canal ever was :lol:

Bryan had a crappy sense of economics and would have been too weak at foreign policy to win the Spanish-American war and would have hindered America's rise to superpower status. He didn't appear to be a sociopath, and if you examine his religious views in the context of the time he lived in rather than in the context of modern self-righteous liberal standards, you would realize that his religious views were pretty typical back then.

McCarthy would have been great! He had a great grasp of what was at stake in the cold war and a great gift of foresight to see how subversive communists and their sympathizers could be, especially in the media. He was probably a narcissist, but not a sociopath.

Palin has a really good understanding of economics and energy policy, and appears to be a fast learner when it comes to national security. At times, her own mouth is her worst enemy. She may be eccentric, but that should not be mistaken for stupidity or sociopathic behavior.


The communist threat in america was in my oppion a moral panic. McCarthy was a moron.
saying Palin has a Really good understanding of economics and appears to be a fast learner at anything but self promotion
make me think that you don't have a really good understanding of palin.


You're spot on about Palin, JV. Browning, generally I appreciate your blunt honesty but Palin wouldn't do you conservatives any good- its not just her mouth that is her problem, there is something missing behind her eyes...
I'd be the first to say that McCarthy was a moron and a man who caused moral panic, but oddly enough, after the USSR disbanded, apparently, it was revealed there actually were Communist infiltrators. I mean, there are several famous cases, including two men involved in the Manhattan project. 8O What McCarthy perpetrated though was essentially a witchhunt that allowed people to remove political rivals through convenience


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14 Apr 2011, 9:46 am

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Funny how Harper said, "We must be loyal to our friends," during an image of jets flying across the sky; this seems to me to suggest that Canada should be loyal to its ally the United States by committing troops and resources to the United States' wars.

Most of those commercials was just vague, inspirational pablum.


Decevin Stephen's 1/3 mandated government recently signed a deal over a period of time to spend millions on fighter jets.

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Ha ... story.html

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One has to wonder if Harper is receiving oral sex from representatives of American "Defense" (<another tricky euphemism, since America the innocent is ALWAYS defending itself against formidable threats like Grenada and Laotian peasants :roll: ) industries and/or if like "communist" FIDEL CASTRO and scores of other dictators on both the right and "the left", the CIA is lending Decevin' Stephen a helping hand of some sort.

Few people realize that Castro is one of wealthiest men in the world. A communist/marxist indeed!! ! 2nd :roll:


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15 Apr 2011, 6:47 pm

If Trump does run, he could be a Ross Perot-ish figure, running as a third-party candidate.


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15 Apr 2011, 6:52 pm

Back to the issue of Donald Trump - I went to college with a retired military officer (from his views, was not one of the most liberal people I've ever met) who was under the opinion that of all the people murdered in New York each year, he didn't understand why no one ever pulled Trump out of his limo, and knifed him to death.

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