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12 Feb 2012, 6:57 pm

I do like the idea of an .xxx domain. That way there is pretty much little chance you can accidentally type that in...

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12 Feb 2012, 7:01 pm

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Hi shrox ...

Well, that solves the problem of watching for signs of life from anybody on life-support. Just pull the plug, cause use of electricity nullifies the entire spectrum of Human Rights. That will also stop the presses so all those old fashioned media things can go back to illegal cave paintings.
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Well, yes.

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12 Feb 2012, 7:01 pm

yes, Playboy is porn. just because it's been trumped by more explicit mags doesn't make it less pornographic.

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12 Feb 2012, 7:03 pm

hyperlexian wrote:

yes, Playboy is porn. just because it's been trumped by more explicit mags doesn't make it less pornographic.

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Hi ....hyperlexian,

"Playboy" is porn too??? For sure, just like Darwin's Theory of Evolution, copies of different religious books, general science, literature, and even autistic & other "disabled" people in public are pornographic in the State of Texas.

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If a woman says it's porn. it's porn!

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12 Feb 2012, 7:41 pm

shrox wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

yes, Playboy is porn. just because it's been trumped by more explicit mags doesn't make it less pornographic.

Tadzio wrote:

Hi ....hyperlexian,

"Playboy" is porn too??? For sure, just like Darwin's Theory of Evolution, copies of different religious books, general science, literature, and even autistic & other "disabled" people in public are pornographic in the State of Texas.

Tadzio

If a woman says it's porn. it's porn!

Hi shrox,

I know the Equal Rights Amendment didn't pass in the U.S.A., but I think you have the situation somewhat backwards.

MISTER Reverend HickMire determines what is pornographic by law in Hicksville, USA. His wife, the former esteemed Miss ThistleBottom, deems secondarily what is "correct". For instance, slacks, instead of dresses, are both pornographic and not correct. And, the movie "Boy Upon A Dolphin" was deemed "hard-core smut", based on Loren's obscene clingy wet blouse (now, the golden nude boy on the fish is Kiddie-porn). At
Penn State, reporting on rape is viewed in practice as an act of pornography too.

Since the ERA failed, maybe a "pro-active" approach would allow those who think they know morality, too ban women from the internet for their own protection, much like a required veiled face elsewhere without the sanctity of privacy in only the husband's household and lone presence.

The google for "autistic people pornographic" returns WP too, along with the "non-pro-active" returns like http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm . Ohhhhh, where is Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. when society needs such wise moral guidance in dealing with pornographic exceptions and burdens to honest healthy normal tax-paying religious patriotic pure strong citizens from such "sinister freaky stuff"???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-w41bhe ... re=related
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-w41bhesPE&feature=related[/youtube]

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12 Feb 2012, 7:43 pm

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What's wrong with porn in public? Seems silly.

What about this is offensive?

Why do we think someone who’s gone through 80 years of life...could possibly be offended by a little porn? They've probably done more kinkier stuff than we'd like to imagine...they have decades, plural, of active sex lives...your granny got down, don't pretend otherwise because it's embarrassing or something.

Anyway, I don't think anything justifies censorship. If you let someone convince you otherwise, you are one step closer to being censored. Open access to everything, by everyone, real freedom of content, information exchange...without that, I don't know, it feels like if you willingly give that up....

Your freedom is precious, stop selling it off piecemeal for illusions of protection.

I don't want my kids stumbling into porn and they don't want to be stumbling into it, either. Porn isn't about freedom of speech anymore than walking the streets naked is about freedom of taste.

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12 Feb 2012, 7:54 pm

Tadzio wrote:

shrox wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

yes, Playboy is porn. just because it's been trumped by more explicit mags doesn't make it less pornographic.

Tadzio wrote:

Hi ....hyperlexian,

"Playboy" is porn too??? For sure, just like Darwin's Theory of Evolution, copies of different religious books, general science, literature, and even autistic & other "disabled" people in public are pornographic in the State of Texas.

Tadzio

If a woman says it's porn. it's porn!

Hi shrox,

I know the Equal Rights Amendment didn't pass in the U.S.A., but I think you have the situation somewhat backwards.

MISTER Reverend HickMire determines what is pornographic by law in Hicksville, USA. His wife, the former esteemed Miss ThistleBottom, deems secondarily what is "correct". For instance, slacks, instead of dresses, are both pornographic and not correct. And, the movie "Boy Upon A Dolphin" was deemed "hard-core smut", based on Loren's obscene clingy wet blouse (now, the golden nude boy on the fish is Kiddie-porn). At
Penn State, reporting on rape is viewed in practice as an act of pornography too.

Since the ERA failed, maybe a "pro-active" approach would allow those who think they know morality, too ban women from the internet for their own protection, much like a required veiled face elsewhere without the sanctity of privacy in only the husband's household and lone presence.

The google for "autistic people pornographic" returns WP too, along with the "non-pro-active" returns like http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm . Ohhhhh, where is Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. when society needs such wise moral guidance in dealing with pornographic exceptions and burdens to honest healthy normal tax-paying religious patriotic pure strong citizens from such "sinister freaky stuff"???

Tadzio

If that woman is your wife, girlfriend, etc, and she says it's porn, it's porn!

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12 Feb 2012, 7:58 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:

NarcissusSavage wrote:

What's wrong with porn in public? Seems silly.

What about this is offensive?

Why do we think someone who’s gone through 80 years of life...could possibly be offended by a little porn? They've probably done more kinkier stuff than we'd like to imagine...they have decades, plural, of active sex lives...your granny got down, don't pretend otherwise because it's embarrassing or something.

Anyway, I don't think anything justifies censorship. If you let someone convince you otherwise, you are one step closer to being censored. Open access to everything, by everyone, real freedom of content, information exchange...without that, I don't know, it feels like if you willingly give that up....

Your freedom is precious, stop selling it off piecemeal for illusions of protection.

I don't want my kids stumbling into porn and they don't want to be stumbling into it, either. Porn isn't about freedom of speech anymore than walking the streets naked is about freedom of taste.

Don't google "nude bicycle rider at university of california"

The instance I was looking for was banned from the (Berkeley?) library over "no shoes, no service" policy, and last I heard, is dead from "mental health treatment" complications.

Tadzio

Last edited by Tadzio on 12 Feb 2012, 8:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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12 Feb 2012, 7:59 pm

Tadzio wrote:

shrox wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

yes, Playboy is porn. just because it's been trumped by more explicit mags doesn't make it less pornographic.

Tadzio wrote:

Hi ....hyperlexian,

"Playboy" is porn too??? For sure, just like Darwin's Theory of Evolution, copies of different religious books, general science, literature, and even autistic & other "disabled" people in public are pornographic in the State of Texas.

Tadzio

If a woman says it's porn. it's porn!

Hi shrox,

I know the Equal Rights Amendment didn't pass in the U.S.A., but I think you have the situation somewhat backwards.

MISTER Reverend HickMire determines what is pornographic by law in Hicksville, USA. His wife, the former esteemed Miss ThistleBottom, deems secondarily what is "correct". For instance, slacks, instead of dresses, are both pornographic and not correct. And, the movie "Boy Upon A Dolphin" was deemed "hard-core smut", based on Loren's obscene clingy wet blouse (now, the golden nude boy on the fish is Kiddie-porn). At
Penn State, reporting on rape is viewed in practice as an act of pornography too.

Since the ERA failed, maybe a "pro-active" approach would allow those who think they know morality, too ban women from the internet for their own protection, much like a required veiled face elsewhere without the sanctity of privacy in only the husband's household and lone presence.

The google for "autistic people pornographic" returns WP too, along with the "non-pro-active" returns like http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm . Ohhhhh, where is Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. when society needs such wise moral guidance in dealing with pornographic exceptions and burdens to honest healthy normal tax-paying religious patriotic pure strong citizens from such "sinister freaky stuff"???

Tadzio

The definition of pornographic is subjective, but subjective shouldn't be confused with slippery. The definition may be subjective, but it is still well established so pretty much no one these days think showing an ankle is too obscene.

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12 Feb 2012, 8:12 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

The definition of pornographic is subjective, but subjective shouldn't be confused with slippery. The definition may be subjective, but it is still well established so pretty much no one these days think showing an ankle is too obscene.

You haven't watched "Sex In the City 2", have you???

Ever hear of Abu Dhabi & Feminists???

Do you mean slippery as if concerning following instructions????:

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ruveyn wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

No. It's a public library. Not privately owned.

A library could be privately owned or endowed, but still open to the public.

you should distinguish between public access and public ownership.

ruveyn

Hey Mr. Wise Guy, the title of the topic already narrowed it down to Pornography in Public Libraries so that's your problem since everyone else was able to figure that out without having it spoonfed to them.

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Dox47 wrote:

Given that language is a medium of communication first and foremost, I have to wonder about the motivation of someone who makes theirs so deliberately ostentatious that it becomes difficult to understand. Clearly communication is not the priority in that case, so what could it be?

Pretentiousness. Being concise is so beneath him so he has to resort to using bigger words and obscure references for their own sake. Ooohhh plain English is so faddish, look at me I'm unique! :roll:

:roll:

Hey buddy, maybe you should save big words for when it's actually necessary to go into more detail rather than using them as pathetic try-hard substitutions for smaller words.

Anyways, back to topic. I'm not surprised at all, but I would think they would make up some BS reason rather than just being straight up about it and ruining their own reputation. Well, people have already been suspecting this type of thing but now they've confirmed it.

This must be why the FDA now proposes "Preparation H" comes with cartoon-illustrated instructions, instead of the complex purple-prose of "UNWRAP it, and stick it in your A-Hole, NOT your mouth, idiot".

Tadzio

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12 Feb 2012, 8:19 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

I covered that with the last sentence. I'd appreciate it if you didn't correct me when I've not done or said anything wrong.

The ownership of the library is the critical issue. A privately owned library can have its own policies on what is or is not available to its users. A publicly owned and funded library must operate under a different set of constraints. You never defined the term -public library- with precision.

If you are going to say or write something do a proper job of it.

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12 Feb 2012, 8:28 pm

Tadzio wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

The definition of pornographic is subjective, but subjective shouldn't be confused with slippery. The definition may be subjective, but it is still well established so pretty much no one these days think showing an ankle is too obscene.

You haven't watched "Sex In the City 2", have you???

Ever hear of Abu Dhabi & Feminists???

Do you mean slippery as if concerning following instructions????:

AceOfSpades wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

No. It's a public library. Not privately owned.

A library could be privately owned or endowed, but still open to the public.

you should distinguish between public access and public ownership.

ruveyn

Hey Mr. Wise Guy, the title of the topic already narrowed it down to Pornography in Public Libraries so that's your problem since everyone else was able to figure that out without having it spoonfed to them.

Tadzio wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

Given that language is a medium of communication first and foremost, I have to wonder about the motivation of someone who makes theirs so deliberately ostentatious that it becomes difficult to understand. Clearly communication is not the priority in that case, so what could it be?

Pretentiousness. Being concise is so beneath him so he has to resort to using bigger words and obscure references for their own sake. Ooohhh plain English is so faddish, look at me I'm unique! :roll:

:roll:

Hey buddy, maybe you should save big words for when it's actually necessary to go into more detail rather than using them as pathetic try-hard substitutions for smaller words.

Anyways, back to topic. I'm not surprised at all, but I would think they would make up some BS reason rather than just being straight up about it and ruining their own reputation. Well, people have already been suspecting this type of thing but now they've confirmed it.

This must be why the FDA now proposes "Preparation H" comes with cartoon-illustrated instructions, instead of the complex purple-prose of "UNWRAP it, and stick it in your A-Hole, NOT your mouth, idiot".

Tadzio

(DAMN!! ! Now the KKK turned inside-out at the bottom of their racist fancy-ass "Bell-Curve", and got it in their own face anyways).

Tadzio

No I meant slippery as in the definition being a slippery slope, I don't know how you got following instructions out of it other than as some sort of a cheap excuse to attack me with that arrogant little quote of yours. Following instructions pertaining to what about the definition of pornographic?

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

I covered that with the last sentence. I'd appreciate it if you didn't correct me when I've not done or said anything wrong.

The ownership of the library is the critical issue. A privately owned library can have its own policies on what is or is not available to its users. A publicly owned and funded library must operate under a different set of constraints. You never defined the term -public library- with precision.

If you are going to say or write something do a proper job of it.

ruveyn

This "critical issue" was already addressed by the title of the thread so maybe you should do a proper job of reading it before you address something that has already been addressed.

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12 Feb 2012, 8:57 pm

shrox wrote:

If that woman is your wife, girlfriend, etc, and she says it's porn, it's porn!

Hi shrox,

I'm not informally involved with "“man-up” mamas of Wingnut, America" telling me what's kosher in Art.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... inism.html

I still read the "Priapeia" & "Satyricon de Petronius", since I'm the God that inspired them, so don't look at the images on Google, since people tend to turn to stone or quickly get to the end of the leash of their pretend freedoms within the State of the State.

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12 Feb 2012, 9:03 pm

Tadzio wrote:

shrox wrote:

If that woman is your wife, girlfriend, etc, and she says it's porn, it's porn!

Hi shrox,

I'm not informally involved with "“man-up” mamas of Wingnut, America" telling me what's kosher in Art.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... inism.html

I still read the "Priapeia" & "Satyricon de Petronius", since I'm the God that inspired them, so don't look at the images on Google, since people tend to turn to stone or quickly get to the end of the leash of their pretend freedoms within the State of the State.

Tadzio

Oh, please don't tell me I have to explain humor to you too!! !! It would just break me...

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12 Feb 2012, 9:18 pm

hanyo wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

What a perfect idea... provide people with a private room so they can also w*k to the porn.

That isn't quite what I meant. I meant an area where random people aren't walking by and seeing everything on your screen. In my library a lot of computers are out in the open and everyone sees what you are looking at. They are right next to the teen book section and not too far from the children's section.

I meant more like the computer room they do have with just computers and have that room be uncensored and no kids allowed but you would still be in a room full of people, just no one underage or randomly walking by.

I know what you meant. That doesn't change what the outcome would ultimately be.

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12 Feb 2012, 9:19 pm

Tadzio wrote:

Hi TeaEarlGreyHot,

IMO, you didn't cover "that" in your last sentence. Court cases over "unclean street-people" in public libraries make distinctions that DO more fully cover "that".

A major set of problems with authoritarians seeking domination at Libraries is that they often believe that they, themselves, are in charge of what is "correct" as available resources in public, and non-public, access to resources. Such practicing authoritarians, & such librarians, often end up "w*king their ego" at the expense of the availability of knowledge for everybody else in society, which such "authoritarian w*king" is being most often contrary to the self-evident truths of society.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H59Py7K ... ure=relmfu

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I'm sorry you didn't understand what I said.

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