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02 Feb 2013, 9:41 am

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Yeah, pets are snakebite bait around these parts if they aren't kept in yards (or paralysis ticks); plenty die due to such. They'll attack the snake, said snake will bite, and then you have one dead dog/cat if the snake injects venom (sometimes they don't). It's not too common though. Ticks and wild dogs kill the most pets.

There hasn't been that many fatalities to snakes around here. I think the last one in my state was a couple of years ago. Whilst the snakes are so venomous, they're so shy and timid of people that you have to provoke them to bite you.
with the exception of the black mamba i would say poisonous snakes tend to be less aggresive.they will flee or give a dry bit.the inland taipan which is the worlds most venomous snake has never killed a person in recorded history.with eastern browns the problem is only when move into a shed and maybe get cornered and feel trapped when someone is retrieving a lawn mower or something.
in the U.S where snakes are less toxic in there venom people think a snake bit is no big deal and mostly drunks try to handle.achohol and snake bit go hand in hand in the southern us.in new england there so rare there almost never seen

Last time I checked, Belcher's sea snake was the most venomous of all snakes. Some lists its venom as up to a 100 times more potent than that of the Inland Taipan. Not likely to encounter one in New England outside of a zoo, though...

Anyway, when I lived in Tanzania, there were highly venomous snakes (including the ridiculously dangerous black mamba) all over the place... That's when you *need* a gun...
have you ever seen a black mamba in the wild


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02 Feb 2013, 10:09 am

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have you ever seen a black mamba in the wild

I don't recall seeing one (it was pre-kindergarden when I lived in Tanzania, so my memory is rather fuzzy).



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02 Feb 2013, 10:34 am

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have you ever seen a black mamba in the wild

I don't recall seeing one (it was pre-kindergarden when I lived in Tanzania, so my memory is rather fuzzy).
i think also there the most populous in the kalahari and namib deserts in the south.the serengetti is more eastern green mamba terratory,i think from what read


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02 Feb 2013, 11:19 am

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have you ever seen a black mamba in the wild

I don't recall seeing one (it was pre-kindergarden when I lived in Tanzania, so my memory is rather fuzzy).
i think also there the most populous in the kalahari and namib deserts in the south.the serengetti is more eastern green mamba terratory,i think from what read

We (at least that what I was told, as per my young age mentioned above) had black mambas, eastern green mambas and spitting cobras in Tanzania.

The black mamba is likely the most dangerous snake in the world, though, because the chance of surviving a bite is so low (apparently, there was a 100 percent reported fatality rate until the invention of a working anti-venom in 1967), and even then you still need to have the anti-venom at hand and quick access to a hospital. Can be problematic getting to a hospital when black mamba venom can be lethal within 30 minutes.

The puff adder is actually responsible for most snake bite fatalities in Africa (because of its wide habitat and frequent contact with humans), but its venom is both (1) less lethal and (2) slower-working than that of the black mamba (last time I checked, fatality from a serious puff adder envenomation occurs within 12-24 hours, which provides more time for administering anti-venom and getting the victim to a hospital).



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02 Feb 2013, 12:51 pm

GGPViper wrote:
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GGPViper wrote:
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have you ever seen a black mamba in the wild

I don't recall seeing one (it was pre-kindergarden when I lived in Tanzania, so my memory is rather fuzzy).
i think also there the most populous in the kalahari and namib deserts in the south.the serengetti is more eastern green mamba terratory,i think from what read

We (at least that what I was told, as per my young age mentioned above) had black mambas, eastern green mambas and spitting cobras in Tanzania.

The black mamba is likely the most dangerous snake in the world, though, because the chance of surviving a bite is so low (apparently, there was a 100 percent reported fatality rate until the invention of a working anti-venom in 1967), and even then you still need to have the anti-venom at hand and quick access to a hospital. Can be problematic getting to a hospital when black mamba venom can be lethal within 30 minutes.

The puff adder is actually responsible for most snake bite fatalities in Africa (because of its wide habitat and frequent contact with humans), but its venom is both (1) less lethal and (2) slower-working than that of the black mamba (last time I checked, fatality from a serious puff adder envenomation occurs within 12-24 hours, which provides more time for administering anti-venom and getting the victim to a hospital).
i have heard that too.puff adders are rarely deadly much like american rattle snakes,much like american rattle snakes puff adders deliver a hemo toxic venom that lead to amputation and such.and the bite is very painfull.the one good thing about a mamba bite or a cobra is that the bit is painless and if they dont kill you the bite wont leave long lasting injuries.


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03 Feb 2013, 11:23 am

i would if i lived in said countries i like my firearms to much :twisted: