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I know that you don't have a religion that believes that. You are atheist, so your belief is a philsosphy rather than religion.

Stop ducking the issue and answer the question. I know very well that I'm an atheist. I'm saying that I have a religion that teaches that all black people should be rounded up and murdered. Are you a bigot for criticising my beliefs and basically disagreeing with them? If we didn't debate and dissect beliefs we'd be in a terrible state. It's how totalitarian regimes are erected. We need debate in any healthy society and no amount of trying to shut up people who wish to criticise your kind of imaginary friend will stop that.

Now, I wholeheartedly respect people's right to hold religious beliefs. I even fully and wholly support people's right to express their beliefs. What I don't like is people trying to stifle debate about the rights and wrongs of their chosen ideas by branding anyone who doesn't like them 'bigoted'.

No, because killing people is evil, I don't think it can be argued whether killing is right and wrong, does it make you happy?

Ah, now you've disagreed with a belief of mine, so I'm going to call you a bigot. Except of course that ethnic cleansing is an abhorrent idea and I'm glad you oppose it. But we all have different beliefs. It's the unwillingness to listen to reason and carrying on arrogantly propounding your beliefs even when you've been proved wrong that makes you a bigot. Not by criticising someone's (possibly flawed!) beliefs. Does this make more sense?

No it doesn't!

My religion has made me happy, and I know that when I do the right thing: I am happy! How are you happy with your beliefs?

Secondly: I can't be proven wrong, but I can be persuaded either by people or evil; Why can you defend your beliefs?

I stand up for myself and my beliefs and people argue about them. Religion shouldn't be an arguement, I was not argueing which religion is true; I was standing for my religion (my church) I am not afraid to do it, and I will continue to stand for my faith.

Look, I didn't say Mormonism is a cult. I merely pointed out that some of the people who publish books about Mormonism say that and I disagree with it. My concern is the utter lack of objective information available for people who want to study Mormonism as an academic rather than religious pursuit.

I bet, hows the endless celetial sex going?

If you're talking about sex as in "Intercourse" I will say that you aren't funny, and that was not funny, nor is it true, and of no value to the subject of the matter.

dgd didn't find that funny. I, however, had to chuckle because my ex who was LDS was also a sex addict and he'd tell me how he loks forward to that

As if he'd get into the celestial kingdom while being addicted to sex

Simple answer to all this: you're all right, for different reasons, which means that you're all also wrong. dgd is right in that he's defending a personal belief, something he has every right. What he did wrong was tell people not to say things, rather than correcting them with concrete evidence. In that sense, Tequila was right for debunking his post. However, Tequila was wrong because, though the example he used was technically related to this argument, it was a bit too extreme to be considered applicable.

So there, you're all right. And those of you who're right, you're all wrong. Happy?

Maybe. Some religions advocate extreme practices, though.

JUST SHUT UP!

1. By US law a Cult is a religous organization with less then one million members.

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3. Let's all stop acting like Motherfrackin' two-year olds! This is turning into "My Gods better then yours! But mine actually exists, yours doesn't!"

Geez, I knew one mormon guy back in high school and he was odd. He didn't drink soda cause of the caffeine, drink or smoke. I don't understand where the drinking beverages with no caffeine is coming from. I know in the book or moron, ooppps mormon, it says not to drink hot beverages.

Is there such a thing as a Black Mormon, meaning a black guy in that church?

aren't the mormons considered a cult. I always thought they were. Cultwatch considers them a cult. If you're going to join a cult, join Scientology. Don't you also have to be rich to join the mormon church?

I personally believe most of the believers are delusional.

Thats true for me, a**hole

MY GOD EXIST!! !!

You need several million dollars to get into Scientology. You literally pay to advance in the church.

The Doctrine and Covenants, not the book of Mormon has the "Word of Wisdom" which says to not drink hot beverages. I don't understand why that means booze, coffee, tea, caffeine, or whatever. The commandment against tobacco is pretty straighforward, though. What's funny is that the same piece of doctrine says to eat meat in moderation for good health, but there seems to be no shortage of steak and bbq establishments thoroughout Utah.



Nowadays, yes. Until 1978, blacks were allowed to join the church, but the black males were not permitted to hold the priesthood (women can never hold the priesthood). I don't know if this is an urban legend or not, but Salt Lake City lore holds that the Mormon leaders received a "revalation" about allowing blacks to hold the priesthood only a couple of days before the NAACP was set to protest on Temple Square.



I've heard that, but since I live among them I hardly consider that to be the case. I have no idea what Cultwatch is, but there are quite a few Evangelical groups that distribute anti-Mormon literature about how Mormons are a cult and not Christian (hello, they worship Jesus... So what if they do it differently than you...). I think that the Evangelicals doing this is like the pot calling the kettle black.

Anyway, most definitions of cult suggest that practices be far outside the mainstream. Really, they don't. They have their church on Sundays, and they have a lot of activities where Mormon kids can play with each other, or singles events, etc. But so do lots of churches. The only oddity is the temple and the underwear, but they still take the underwear off to swim and so forth. They aren't allowed to talk about what the temple ceremony consists of.

Finances - you are supposed to pay tithing (10% of your income) to the church. Can't tell you if it is gross or net. You can't go to the temple if you don't pay the tithing, but that is only one of several commandments that you are asked about in order to gain admission to the temple. Scientology, on the other hand, only allows you to advance in their church if you pay massive ammounts of money. Also, I think they make you live in one of their compounds. Not sure about that, though.



I think that can be said for believers of any religion.