Pleiadians/Plejarans?

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Wildly dirty topic though. In essence there's a place where mind and material bleed over and criss-cross to a point that we've hidden under the rug of science - much to our collective cultural schizophrenia.


It might be one of many criteria for certain kinds of events, but not all. So her miandering shot-in-the-dark guess is maybe 1/3 to half right.

Here's the thing. Neither is closer or further from the truth. Both crowds believe in the exact same thing, except the semantics are different. And actually, if you look at most legends of old and most religious texts, you'll find that a great deal of them describe the same events, but again, from a different perspective, with different semantics. The sooner we realize that and stop our damn fighting over these stupid semantics, the better off we're all gonna be. We all need to sit down and read and pay attention to what other cultures, religions, and civilizations have to say, and rather than just dismissing it as hogwash, actually consider it and compare it to whatever it is we already believe. The sooner we do that, the sooner we can all realize that we have much more in common than we could have ever imagined before and maybe actually put an end to most of the oppression in this world. It's about time we tried to get along and live together in peace and harmony.

Right, lets take a look at M45 (Pleiades).

* Minor star cluster with many B-type stars.
* Lots of mass, lots of material colliding after star formation.
* Planet formation, probably with many giant high-gravity planets because of all that material.
* Finally add the likelyhood of life escaping from such a gravitywell.

Also:
1) we know nothing about the habital zone of such stars.
2) I for one would not like to live in a starsystem where a blue giant whips up a cosmic storm towards my homeplanet.

They don't have to tell the truth.

Aleister Crowley initiating the Enochian keys in Algeria (compliments of John Dee and Edward Kelly) might have more to do with this than any remote cluster of blue giants or any yellow or orange sun supposedly 80 to 100 light years in front of or behind it. The Enochian keys/calls were given to John Dee and Edward Kelly for the sake of the person performing the ceremony ushering in the final conflict by opening the 4 watch towers (4 archangels) and thus these very well could be the forces of Choronzon and we might be dropped right into the middle of House of 1,000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects when they get off their ships.

That last thought is not a definite, just something we need to think of incredibly carefully and not consider them out of hand a sci-fi geek w*k fantasy.

Huh?

To add a quick line before I try to answer this. I just received the book that I ordered from Amazon, ie. the Essence of the Notes by Maurice Osborn (ie. the conversations of Sfath and Aket with Billy Meier) and I just went from 70% with Steven Quayle to almost 100% regarding what the 'Pleiadians' are. Just looking at the first 20 pages and things Asket was telling Billy - things were both incredibly clear regarding their eschatological ultimatum for the planet (ie. stop all world religions) as well as some wild claim that this is the only planet that such 'religions' have happened on and that they spread like a virus. She also goes on about the evils of religion in preventing a one world government, something the Pleiadians deem essential.

Evidence is very heavy-handed that we're not looking at space-humans, nor are we looking at anything from any seven blue giants as I said earlier.

Think about the bloody mess of Christian end-time prophecies, Revelations, war to make WWII and Mongolian Hordes look Mickey Mouse, the 'devil's wrath' poured out on the planet, the strong delusion to whip the people into a frenzy with a potency well beyond what Hilter was able to gin up because this won't just be a physical landing of supposed extra-terrestrials, it will also be the quote unquote 'black awakening' - ie. all things occult will be coming to life and it'll feel like the very air you're breathing is trying to pull, push, knock you off balance, psychologically wear you out, short-circuit your thinking, and then bliss you into submission. Try debating a fallen angel under those circumstances....you'd be in bad enough shape with just that let alone being under the influence of what feels like a combo of rohypnol, LSD, and ecstacy. If all that sounds incredibly anti-human you'd be absolutely right.

While I greatly respect the atheists and agnostics here for trying to hold their realities steady and push back what they see as absurdity, its looking like a very dangerous time to be naive to the possibility that you're REALLY going to have your metal tested.

I don't care if anyone would laugh at me for phrasing it like this, I really really hope that I'm making an ass of myself right now and that I can laugh this all off later. If I'm not however these 'things' will come to tell us that we're diaspora from another planet, that they created Jesus as a teaching tool but that it's a lie that he died on the cross or was resurrected (I'm not conjecting that - its all over Pleiadian teachings, channeled teachings, you name it). It will be the ancient alien theory coming at us in real time from what looks to be the horse's mouth.

I'm not going to lie - it disturbs me, ie. this, NDE'ers seeing an all loving God who deals no judgment, ie. all of this looks like what we would call in legal terms 'entrapment'. I would love to just throw it out the window as being six-fingered hillbilly magic but.... wow.... the narratives keep adding up and keep backing into this corner no matter where I read from.

I was a scoffer, but this documentary presents disturbing evidence of these events described in the book of Enoch!

http://youtu.be/UT24AGG2LTc

Lol. It's still quite a twisted scenario when Christians, Muslims, Jews, Freemasons, Ordo Templi Orientis, Rosecrucians, etc. all agree on something other than sports.

Some really good news. I just read as much of 'The Essence of the Notes' by Maurice Osborne which is a 650 page drunk-sized-text book summarizing the 1975-77 contacts Billy Meier had with the Plejarans. My verdict - it logically self-destructs right there in print without
you even needing or wanting to cherry-pick.

My best guess at this point: Eduard Meier wanted to write his own 'New Atlantis' in the traditional Francis Bacon or Plato method, but, he's been trying to beat the HG Wells delivery and get people to believe that these things are real. The problem is, while Eduard seems like a guy fascinated with world religions and advocating against them and strictly for open spirituality, everything that he talks about with Semjase, Asket, and Ptaah shows just how bad he is at the rest of what he's trying to do. For instance they as space humans have had space flight for 21 million years, are 3,500 years more advanced than us, and discovered/made anti-matter some time in the 1970's. That we were able to synthesize anti-matter last year and are still decades if not a century away from any worthwhile space flight makes that a little confusing, let alone the likelihood that if we don't blow ourselves up we'll be more advanced than they are in about 3,503 years (although 3 years at their rate of development for our 3500 might be a little charitable).

I'm going to do some more research on this but much more from the human interest standpoint: ie. what on earth Meier, Wendelle Stevens, or Mike Horn are doing.

Glad to at least have one more corner of the bathroom floor cleaned up. The great news: we won't have to worry about Billy Meier's 'Plejarans' showing up, chatting with Petrus Romanus, and initiating the tribulation - perhaps that'll be a different group of our 'space-brethren'.

I assume you realize that this is all nonsense.

ruveyn

They probably do. They also know that posting such nonsense is likely to attract hostile responses.

No. I definitely don't.

(edit: I assumed you were quoting the last thing I said - read that and realize I'm talking about everything else below)

Well...im sure glad to hear that you finnally got THAT straightened out!

You started this thread asking which group had a better explanation for a certain proposterous thing that never happened.

The Plejarian believers? Or the Nephilim crowd?

Since you've decided that you're now disenchanted with the Plejarans we can all rest easy that the Nephilim crowd is right.

It wasnt space aliens who knocked up the earth women of old, it was supernatural entities!

So now we can progress to the next question- which entity was it? Was it the tooth fairy? Or was it the easter Bunny? Who knocked up these women and produced the race of Titans?