Do you believe in God and supernatural beings?

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I think the OP's question is a non question because if so called supernatural beings existed then they would not be supernatural. They would be natural.

What makes something natural is that the laws of physics and chemistry apply to that something.

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I read that not long after the Pope resigned lightening struck the Roman church or whatever it's called, which has lightening rods to begin with and there was no damage or injury. This was on the Weather Network where they, the weather people with all their science and education, seemed to think it was not just a coincidence. I said it was nearly impossible to be religious when serial killers, bullies, rapists, drug dealers, child molesters and even telemarketers are never struck by lightening. And the stupid individuals in Rome who killed cats out of superstition up until around 2008 when it was finally outlawed! I have an uncle who was once struck, but I think his only "sin" was that he was using a metal hammer outdoors that attracted the lightening.

When I was a kid I once read a humorous poem about the inventor of the microscope and the people who said he was mad when he said there were "millions of tiny bugs" swimming in their drinking water. Why is it so much easier for people to deny something really exists when there is actual scientific proof of it? Why are "beliefs" and opinions more important than actual proven facts? I once read that some people honestly believe germs do not make people sick because germs are everywhere but we're not sick all the time, and they have never gotten vaccines for diseases that used to kill many people,(apparently the fact that the death toll from such diseases decreased dramatically is no proof at all) and they would walk calmly through a ward filled with Ebola sufferers and not wash their hands before examining them. Stupid...

I do have a trace of a spiritual side and I really do enjoy the fantasy of make-believe beings, but I think people who really believe in such things need to somehow be sent back to the Dark Ages, when doctors believed leeches cured everything, and drilling holes in your skull let out the demons that gave you migraines, and Christian people blamed the Bubonic Plague on Jewish people and other "minority" groups and had no clue whatsoever it was from the fleas on the rats scurrying around in their own houses. Lovely!

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Maybe you should consider the contents of another thread here, where I pointed out that the Bible says the Devil rules this world, would certainly also explain why the nastiest of people in this world are the ones who are most successful in it.

But if God is so good and powerful why would he allow the Devil to rule the world? And who wants to believe in a god who does?

Good question. I don't know, though I've heard that God supposedly has a grand plan for humanity. And, being an atheist, I don't believe in the god of Christians, Muslims, and Jews.

He allows people freedom of choice, mankind rejected Gods sovereignty over us and instead we chose the path the Devil layed for us, what would you have God do?, kill all those who reject him in favour of the Devils world?

Hes not going to leave it like this forever mind, when things get so bad that the issue of who makes the better god of mankind has been settled for all to see, then God will resume control and the world will be a nice place.

Revelation 21
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Or heres an illustration for you.

Lets say you've got a son, and one day he announces how mean you are and that instead, he is going to live with another man to have as his father because this other man is going to treat him better, hes not going to make your son go to school, instead he can watch TV all day, doesn't have to eat vegetables, can just eat crisps and sweets, can stay up all night, take drugs, drink beer.

So what will you do, go and kill this other man and force you son back with you?, hes just going to think you are really mean because out of jealousy you killed this other guy who was going to be a better father.

What God is going to do is let the son see for himself what a big mistake he made, how sick he gets eating junk and taking drugs, how stupid he gets and how empty his life is, then one day he will realise who the better Father was for himself and return on his own.

Unless lostonearth35 is lying on her profile, lostonearth35 is a woman.

I am open to the idea of a higher power, but certainly not the fellow who tumbled out of the oral traditions of the people who followed Apple Maps 6 for 40 years.

I was raised by a single mum and she and her (and therefore my family members) are all atheists. I am an atheist as well. I just can't believe in the existence of a god, not even if I wanted to. The whole thing just seems far too unlikely and bizarre to me.

I do understand the fact that people need a religion in their lives because it helps them to get by in life, but when people make an attempt to convert me to their religion it irritates me beyond belief. I don't think the influence of religions has always been positive. Far from it! I get annoyed when religious people are so dogmatic that it makes them intolerant, hypocritical, narrow minded and self righteous. They tend to think that they are the only ones with a set of moral values just because of the mere fact that they are religious which is total nonsense. Atheists have a conscience to.

If by God you mean a personal anthropomorphic being like in the Judaic Christian tradition, then no.

I've met my own proof that there are legitimately other conscious 'things' out there, that subconscious minds are connected, and while most evidence as we think of it in scientific terms is occulted by the way this hologram we call the physical universe is built it seems like its living and thriving in its own far more fantastic worlds all day long.

As far as Catholics go there are big 'C', little 'C', I'm a bit of both albeit I do adhere to a trinity (no other gods) just that I tend to embrace new age/theosophic physics of the universe/existence and also tend to worry about the Catholic obsession with Mary. Seems like a *lot* of pagan, Gnostic, and generally Masonic teachings crept into the Catholic church over the years in ways.

But if ... then ...
(Fill in the gaps, please).

You deny the existance of all the gods you don't believe in. Or maybe you are indifferent to those other gods, which is "worse".

Then I may be open to some idea or concept. However,if it is impersonal then it makes no real difference in my life.