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Unlikely, if anything I imagine an autistic communist society would last far shorter than one composed of NTs. For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
That said, I am a poor-hating moustache-twirling capitalist so maybe that's just my bias speaking 
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01 Jun 2013, 7:45 pm
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
Capitalism is a top down form of collectivism, I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, all societies by virtue of existing has some collectivist elements, but communism and similar ideologies tend to be particularly big on it, emphasising everyone being part of a larger system and working together for the common good etc. Most AS people I know, myself included, tend to be the opposite of that, preferring to follow our own initiative and ideas rather than whatever the latest authority figure says, so I can't see an AS communist society lasting long before it tears itself apart because everyone decides to do their own thing
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01 Jun 2013, 7:57 pm
Jojopa wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
Capitalism is a top down form of collectivism, I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, all societies by virtue of existing has some collectivist elements, but communism and similar ideologies tend to be particularly big on it, emphasising everyone being part of a larger system and working together for the common good etc. Most AS people I know, myself included, tend to be the opposite of that, preferring to follow our own initiative and ideas rather than whatever the latest authority figure says, so I can't see an AS communist society lasting long before it tears itself apart because everyone decides to do their own thing
In a communist society the decisions that affect everyone are made by consensus. Nothing stops individuals from doing their own thing as long as it doesn't subordinate other people.
01 Jun 2013, 8:02 pm
01 Jun 2013, 8:05 pm
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
Capitalism is a top down form of collectivism, I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, all societies by virtue of existing has some collectivist elements, but communism and similar ideologies tend to be particularly big on it, emphasising everyone being part of a larger system and working together for the common good etc. Most AS people I know, myself included, tend to be the opposite of that, preferring to follow our own initiative and ideas rather than whatever the latest authority figure says, so I can't see an AS communist society lasting long before it tears itself apart because everyone decides to do their own thing
In a communist society the decisions that affect everyone are made by consensus. Nothing stops individuals from doing their own thing as long as it doesn't subordinate other people.
What about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
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01 Jun 2013, 8:09 pm
Raptor wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
Capitalism is a top down form of collectivism, I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, all societies by virtue of existing has some collectivist elements, but communism and similar ideologies tend to be particularly big on it, emphasising everyone being part of a larger system and working together for the common good etc. Most AS people I know, myself included, tend to be the opposite of that, preferring to follow our own initiative and ideas rather than whatever the latest authority figure says, so I can't see an AS communist society lasting long before it tears itself apart because everyone decides to do their own thing
In a communist society the decisions that affect everyone are made by consensus. Nothing stops individuals from doing their own thing as long as it doesn't subordinate other people.
What about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
Did those killings happen in classless, stateless societies? Your being intellectually dishonest again.
01 Jun 2013, 8:20 pm
RushKing wrote:
Raptor wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
Capitalism is a top down form of collectivism, I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, all societies by virtue of existing has some collectivist elements, but communism and similar ideologies tend to be particularly big on it, emphasising everyone being part of a larger system and working together for the common good etc. Most AS people I know, myself included, tend to be the opposite of that, preferring to follow our own initiative and ideas rather than whatever the latest authority figure says, so I can't see an AS communist society lasting long before it tears itself apart because everyone decides to do their own thing
In a communist society the decisions that affect everyone are made by consensus. Nothing stops individuals from doing their own thing as long as it doesn't subordinate other people.
What about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
Did those killings happen in classless, stateless societies? Your being intellectually dishonest again.
Mass killings under Communist regimes.
Could the title be any clearer?
If I'm being intellectually dishonest (a complement from most of this forum) then you're being intellectually impractical (to put it mildly) by trying to portray communism as anything but party/government sanctioned enslavement and genocide.
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01 Jun 2013, 8:30 pm
Raptor wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Raptor wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
Capitalism is a top down form of collectivism, I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, all societies by virtue of existing has some collectivist elements, but communism and similar ideologies tend to be particularly big on it, emphasising everyone being part of a larger system and working together for the common good etc. Most AS people I know, myself included, tend to be the opposite of that, preferring to follow our own initiative and ideas rather than whatever the latest authority figure says, so I can't see an AS communist society lasting long before it tears itself apart because everyone decides to do their own thing
In a communist society the decisions that affect everyone are made by consensus. Nothing stops individuals from doing their own thing as long as it doesn't subordinate other people.
What about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
Did those killings happen in classless, stateless societies? Your being intellectually dishonest again.
Mass killings under Communist regimes.
Could the title be any clearer?
If I'm being intellectually dishonest (a complement from most of this forum) then you're being intellectually impractical (to put it mildly) by trying to portray communism as anything but party/government sanctioned enslavement and genocide.
We are talking about communism, not state "socialism" which "attends" to bring about communism eventually. I hate Bolsheviks as much as you do.
01 Jun 2013, 8:33 pm
RushKing wrote:
Raptor wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Raptor wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Jojopa wrote:
For better or worse, from my own experience AS people tend to be more individualistic and 'lone wolf' on average than NT people and so would be unlikely to sacrifice their own autonomy for a strongly collectivist society.
Capitalism is a top down form of collectivism, I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, all societies by virtue of existing has some collectivist elements, but communism and similar ideologies tend to be particularly big on it, emphasising everyone being part of a larger system and working together for the common good etc. Most AS people I know, myself included, tend to be the opposite of that, preferring to follow our own initiative and ideas rather than whatever the latest authority figure says, so I can't see an AS communist society lasting long before it tears itself apart because everyone decides to do their own thing
In a communist society the decisions that affect everyone are made by consensus. Nothing stops individuals from doing their own thing as long as it doesn't subordinate other people.
What about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
Did those killings happen in classless, stateless societies? Your being intellectually dishonest again.
Mass killings under Communist regimes.
Could the title be any clearer?
If I'm being intellectually dishonest (a complement from most of this forum) then you're being intellectually impractical (to put it mildly) by trying to portray communism as anything but party/government sanctioned enslavement and genocide.
We are talking about communism, not state "socialism" which "attends" to bring about communism eventually. I hate Bolsheviks as much as you do.
Communism is as communism does.
History has already been made and your workers (slackers) paradise experiment has failed.
Nuff said.
01 Jun 2013, 8:37 pm
