Is anybody tired of Obama or the Democrats?

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16 Feb 2014, 10:26 pm

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Too bad he was beat out by that blithering idiot Johnson. I read somewhere that Goldwater wanted to settle the Vietnam War with tactical nukes. :twisted:


Not only did Landslide Lyndon not settle the Vietnam War, he got 60,000 Americans killed for nothing. Lyndon Johnson was a disaster for the United States.

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The things I'v read about his mishandling and bumbling incompetence in that war have had my blood boiling.


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16 Feb 2014, 10:40 pm

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Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.


Damn, I'd like to see the fits you rightwing extremists would go in if an actual left labour or socialist party came to America and started winning House Seats. Maybe the hysterical, "country ending" complaints from the far right would stop if they could actually see the Centrecrats in proper context.


Hey, if democracy fails us there's always other methods. :D
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Do you wonder why people think you're a nut job? You'd rather destroy the country than not get your way.



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16 Feb 2014, 11:23 pm

LKL wrote:
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Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.


Damn, I'd like to see the fits you rightwing extremists would go in if an actual left labour or socialist party came to America and started winning House Seats. Maybe the hysterical, "country ending" complaints from the far right would stop if they could actually see the Centrecrats in proper context.


Hey, if democracy fails us there's always other methods. :D
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Do you wonder why people think you're a nut job? You'd rather destroy the country than not get your way.


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The satire/dark humor was blatantly obvious, even for someone on the spectrum.


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17 Feb 2014, 12:18 am

satire is usually funny because there's a large element of truth to it.



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17 Feb 2014, 6:35 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
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Today’s liberal democrats more closely resemble socialists and Marxists, who, rather than uniting people, seek to divide and conquer by encouraging them to identify with their social class while inciting a hatred of earned wealth.


Damn, I'd like to see the fits you rightwing extremists would go in if an actual left labour or socialist party came to America and started winning House Seats. Maybe the hysterical, "country ending" complaints from the far right would stop if they could actually see the Centrecrats in proper context.


It's convenient to ignore the fact that America was founded by Right Wing Extremists intent on escaping the tyranny of King George. A tyranny which liberals seem eager to reinstate, by any means possible.



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17 Feb 2014, 8:25 am

Wingnuts, please stop ignoring your own sides regular descents into totalitarianism. On the other hand, if you are POE's, carry on. You might want to be
clearer though. :shrug:



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17 Feb 2014, 1:33 pm

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It's convenient to ignore the fact that America was founded by Right Wing Extremists intent on escaping the tyranny of King George. A tyranny which liberals seem eager to reinstate, by any means possible.


Meanwhile, after escaping the "tyranny of King George", the United States established tariffs and George Washington lead an armed force to collect whiskey taxes.

Meanwhile, Thomas Paine advocated estate taxes, land value taxes and guaranteed incomes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarian_Justice


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17 Feb 2014, 2:08 pm

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satire is usually funny because there's a large element of truth to it.


Not necessarily, but lets say this is the rule. There have been politically motivated assassinations in the world so this would be fitting your definition of satire. If not that then it's definitely dark humor.
Accept it or not, I don't care.


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17 Feb 2014, 7:28 pm

Johnson should have just stuck to the war on poverty and got out of Vietnam.

"Some because of their poverty, and some because of their color, and all too many because of both. Our task is to help replace their despair with opportunity. This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America."
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17 Feb 2014, 7:41 pm

I am tired of the group of traitor Republicans who met the night Obama was being sworn into his first term and plotted to block and obstruct everything he tries to do, before they even know whet it is, even if it is something Republicans have always supported. And I am tired of their nonstop scheme to blame all of his "failures", which their obstruction has caused, on his incompetence, his socialist views blah blah, blah. Conservatives have been doing absolutely nothing to legislate(their JOB), since Obama was elected. All The Republicans have been doing is trying to destroy the economy of America and blame it all on Obama. They can only do this because the IQ of the typical right wing voter is equal to that of a sand box.



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18 Feb 2014, 12:48 am

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Johnson should have just stuck to the war on poverty and got out of Vietnam.

"Some because of their poverty, and some because of their color, and all too many because of both. Our task is to help replace their despair with opportunity. This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America."
LBJ


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18 Feb 2014, 2:24 am

LKL wrote:
satire is usually funny



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18 Feb 2014, 2:56 am

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Hey, if democracy fails us there's always other methods. :D
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Yeah right, that will work. :roll:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoG_QoaLD1g[/youtube]



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18 Feb 2014, 3:11 am

LKL wrote:
satire is usually funny because there's a large element of truth to it.


Perhaps it was more gallows humour than satire?


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18 Feb 2014, 5:14 am

Max000 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Hey, if democracy fails us there's always other methods. :D
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Yeah right, that will work. :roll:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoG_QoaLD1g[/youtube]


um while I don't support an uprising as of yet, I always have to point out logic to the "gov has helicopters and bombs so no point " people

a human being flies that jet, that jet needs to land, that human needs to eat, that human has family, that base can be attacked , that helicopter pilot can be shot. It also needs fuel, food, supplies that the population being bombed won't supply.

now that logic besides, most military won't start attacking citizens in the us, those are their family, friends and community.
also the US gov won't start carpet bombing us cities, its called moral and winning over the population, something we failed to do in Iraq by dropping bombs killing civilians. The gov wouldn't win over the population by bombing it, this would lead to more people joining the resistance, increasing their numbers,

if this was to happen expect mass AWOL, positions abandoned, fighting might break out in forts in the case of a civil war, the national guard will most likely side with the locals, texas has its own tanks, jets, navy, troops. The marines protect the Constitution not the president.

anyways, I just hope that a day when such events happen never come to pass, the bloodshed and death will but huge. I hate violence and have many family members that would die without medical treatment. I don't know why some people would want all the above, aside from my occasional suicidal thoughts that i would die in such event. but not worth it at the loss of others

but I regress, my main point is the benefit of bombs and such are void when fighting in the homeland, it will have to be fought on the ground house to house and with words and the military will be too messed up to achieve this as such in current form, no dictator would call on the military to attack our own.


now as for the op, yes I'm tired of him and the democrats, as a registered democrat, i wish they'd leave me the f**k alone and focus on the bad economy or debt, or our problems with china. Obama was elected on the mandate of fixing the economy, not on taking guns away. but his "I won't take your guns" is the same as his "you can keep your current medical plan" hes just another lying politician.



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18 Feb 2014, 7:05 am

Fifty years ago LBJ declared a war on poverty, under Obama it has mutated into a war on prosperity.

If you do these two things it's almost impossible to remain poor:
1. Finish high school
2. Don't have children until you're married and can afford them.

Unfortunately, when you have the ability to call yourself a victim and plunder the pockets of those who’ve made responsible choices, there isn't much incentive to do any of that.


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Meanwhile, after escaping the "tyranny of King George", the United States established tariffs and George Washington lead an armed force to collect whiskey taxes.
Meanwhile, Thomas Paine advocated estate taxes, land value taxes and guaranteed incomes.

If Obama had been a founding father, the American Revolution might never have occurred. After the Boston Tea Party he and Michelle would have embarked on a ‘European Apology Tour’ blaming the act on ‘Astroturfing Free Market Fundamentalists' and condemning the concept of American Exceptionalism (you didn’t build that). He also would have advocated gun control, section 8 housing, and a ‘cap & trade’ tax on the carbon released from open campfires, because every doctrine and tenet of the democrats entails an increase in political power and a decrease in the power of the individual.