Why is rape seen as being as bad as killing somebody?

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oh, i just read your post. That's not rape. That's taking advantage of a situation. Women have this too. Even in fantasies sometimes our desires carry us away to places we wouldn't go normally in real life. I think it's about taking advantage of a situation. She must have lots of shame. My dad said all of his friends were molested. He went to a catholic school. It wasn't gay but more like just something that happened.

I can't stand being controlled but with one man it's nice so I guess I allow that too but maybe in a more ideal realm that's not so shameful. idk, it feels great to appease a man who is strong. Hard to describe really. We get imprinted with sex.

One guy came to freud with a foot fetish. the guy first got turned on by his mothers foot and after that had this fetish and didn't realize it til he went under hypnosis. Sex isn't about power though in the way where it's so beautiful where we really connect. It's like glorifying cheetos. You don't sit around a dinner table with cheetos because it has no nutritional value or substance. It may seem like an ok idea at the time when you're hungry but afterwards when you down a bag of cheetos you feel gross. It's not healthy. Not to say you should never ever have cheetos, but you should at least be able to experience a seven course meal before you imprint that into your brain as a normal way to eat.

I wasn't talking specifically about you. I was asking you a question because your post seems to connect the seriousness of rape with penetration.

That is one dimension of it. Penetrative rape is horrific because of the total invasion. It is true however that there remains an open question as to why young boys are so affected by abuse which is not penetrative.

What im getting at is that someone could "brainwash" hypnotise and drug you and under the combined influence you may go out and do things you would never do otherwise. That is a violation of your will which on apurely logical level is far more pervasive than rape. Rape is unarguably the far worse crime because of its effect on the victim, but why is it so awful.

Not feeling safe doesn't really answer why burglaries dont have a similar effect. Feeling powerless also similarly doesn't explain why being drugged against one's will isn't as severe.

Ive never been raped so I can only really speculate but perhaps it has something to do with the purity of sex being tainted. What I mean is that sex is one of the peak human experiences and is given freely. However when someone comes and takes that forcefully that experience is made dirty and unclean. This might explain why rape and abuse sometimes cause victims to adopt careers in pornography prostitution or to become incapable of sexual sensation. Sex is also linked to a lot of societal shame and guilt and rape brings that out and dumps it on the shoulders of the victim.

I think that in most cases this might be an undercurrent which makes the suffering all the more intense. Added to the feeling of violation powerlessness and fear there is this sense that you are now an unclean thing, perhaps you deserved it. Sex thereafter is rendered very difficult in many cases as a result.

For the victim rape can thus be seen as a fate worse than death but so can losing a loved one. Is a long protracted grieving process worse than living with rape? Ive never experienced either but I know that you can come to terms with both but death is final. In utilitarian terms I suppose rape is worse than death because death theoretically involves no pain, but that logic could be applied to any painful experience. It really does do a gross injustice to rape victims to say that their lives aren't worth living. Many people manage to overcome the experience and any suffering overcome often (no matter how trite it sounds) leaves you stronger and perhaps able to counsel others enduring similar stress

That's because she was talking specifically about the act of penetration. The mechanics are different (usually) for female on male. Doesn't make it any less bad.

trigger warning: this is going to be a relatively graphic reply, because yeah, penetrative rape can involve some pretty graphic and horrendous stuff.

i suppose that really depends on what you mean by "serious"--i mean, can rape that doesn't involve penetration be fatal? because penetrative rape can be fatal--just remember that poor woman in india last year who was gang-raped on a bus and died later from her injuries. you can literally rape someone to death by penetrating them if you tear them open and they bleed to death or if you perforate their bowel and they die days later after their own s**t has poisoned their own body and sepsis has slowly shut their organs down one by one--which is what happened to the indian woman who was gang-raped and sodomised with a tire iron. obviously men can experience this kind of penetrative violence too, it is not exclusive to female victims; but that kind of physical danger/damage is exclusive to penetrative rape. i think at least in a medical sense one could define penetrative rape as "more serious" for that reason. a violation of one's body is going to be traumatic whoever it happens to and however it happens--but one that includes physical danger/injury and possibly the risk of losing one's life due to the violence of the violation itself, that does strike me as being pretty "serious".

You're not answering the question; you were asked about your contention that penetrative rape was more of a violation in the psychological sense, not about which was more likely to result in physical injury.