Zionism is no different than Nazism

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BS! No more than europeans did to themselves

Oh, you may care to rethink that. An Israeli professor has just come all out and advocated the use of rape as a terror weapon. Something that would make them very similar to the nazis.

http://forward.com/articles/202558/isra ... z38CkiXwaG

You could find a professor anywhere that has a messed up opinion.

BS! No more than europeans did to themselves

You could find a professor anywhere that has a messed up opinion.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center today denounced the anti-Semitic canards spouted by Professor Johan Galtung, a respected Norwegian academic who linked mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik to Israel, recommended the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zion and asserted that Jewish achievements in Germany led to the Nazi Holocaust. Among other Galtung claims, according to an article in the April 30, 2012 edition of Ha?aretz, six Jewish companies control 96% of the media who, ?divert for the sake of Israel.? He also said, ?Seventy percent of the professors at the twenty most important American universities are Jewish.? The article also says Galtung bases this doctrine on a piece written by the American white supremacist, William Pierce.

http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nln ... 89hefl_t8E

Denial will get you nowhere. The west is constantly being accused of "escalating tensions" between different groups and middle east, etc. How can escalate something that doesn't exist?. Same story in central Asia.

Take responsibility, instead of covering your ears and eyes.

In fact the majority of the problems in the middle east come down to this. The Ottoman's couldn't solve this, the French couldn't solve this, the British could solve this. Then they wonder why they have such terribly oppressive governments. They have have such government becuase paranoia, and mutual hatred requires total domination either by minorities trying to protect their own interests (generally Baathism), or majorities (generally the Sheiks and Ayatollahs). In lieu of actually facing up to the sectarian culture, thy are face with these oppressive system because of mutual fear.

This exactly a symptom of neurosis, being so caught up in the whirlwind of destructive behavior it always someone else's fault never your own.

I actually want them to come out the other side. But they need to learn to get out of of this destructive cycle first and not such everyone else in to it either.

Here is one of them:

In the 70s, 80s and even 90s the chance or running into a true adherent to Zionism was slimmer. Zionism is used an a general label but it is actual quite a specific thing. As Hamas has gained popularity, you would expect that Zionism would come back, especially the "ultra" brand of it.

Quite frankly it is still a minority, but a significant one, and it will grow so long as there is extremism also on the other side.

The Palestinian movement used to me more mixed, but that has gone too. Arguably at a faster rate. It is pretty much just a Muslim movement now.

I don't agree with settlements. However where would you rather live Gaza or West Bank? The answer is obvious.

The Palestinian's aren't all whiter then white. They have dug them selves a pretty big hole and they need to take some responsibility.

Just becuase there is real suffering don't mean there isn't a self perpetuating aspect to it. Victim-hood is taught through the generations. What you are looking at is literally mass neurosis, much the same an individual neurosis, and the treatment is much the same too.

Someone who truly wants to be free they reject victim-hood no matter what they come up against. They don't wallow in it.

I ask you as a former Muslim what do you think the priorities are in the Muslim world right now?

In the 13 centuries since the battle of Karbula sectarian conflict among Muslim has barely ceased for a moment. The paranoia, the mutual hatred, it is endemic in the middle east an central Asia. How many people do you think have been displaced, killed or maimed over these centuries becuase o this? Compare to the Israeli/Palestinian situation of one century, you would have to use a logarithmic scale to even have them on the same chart the difference is so vast. Palestinian population was small in the 60s, and it is bigger now but comparatively small, including the displaced compared to other conflict. The Muslim world hasn't exactly helped, and like I said the internal sectarian conflicts cause much more harm. This is regardless of what you think of the Israelis, it is down to numbers. The Muslim world needs to get their own house in order before lecturing others.

Palestine was a British creation after WWI, part of trans-Jordan. I respect they want to to self determine, that is fine, but if the is was really just about territory, and displacement that would be one thing, but as a former Muslim you know it is not that simple. It is also about the keys to the holy land, and being the righteous party, and simply not tolerating the other faiths becuase in the Koran it says they are corrupted and inferior. Sure there is no compulsion "in religion" for people of the book as the saying goes, but as an atheist there certainly is.

I ask you as a former Muslim what do you think the priorities are in the Muslim world right now?

Both use political repression and suppression
Both are racially/ethnically motivated
Both are genocidal
Both believe in torture and humiliation as legitimate
Both brag about their killings
Both use violence to quell all dissidence and opposition
Both build apartheid walls and relocate ethnic minorities to ghettoes
Both target civilians then blame their enemies as the cause (hitler did that quite a bit in his speeches which you can read online)
Both celebrate genocide (watch israelis picnicking on youtube as missiles hit gaza. watch how much fun their extravagant celebrations are)
Both use arbitrary detainment indefinitely under false pretenses
Both have used starvation and malnutrition to weaken their targets (gaza blockade, holocaust emaciated jews)
Both are land hungry and covetous

Both use political repression and suppression
Both are racially/ethnically motivated
Both are genocidal
Both believe in torture and humiliation as legitimate
Both brag about their killings
Both use violence to quell all dissidence and opposition
Both build apartheid walls and relocate ethnic minorities to ghettoes
Both target civilians then blame their enemies as the cause (hitler did that quite a bit in his speeches which you can read online)
Both celebrate genocide (watch israelis picnicking on youtube as missiles hit gaza. watch how much fun their extravagant celebrations are)
Both use arbitrary detainment indefinitely under false pretenses
Both have used starvation and malnutrition to weaken their targets (gaza blockade, holocaust emaciated jews)
Both are land hungry and covetous

Have the Palestinians been rounded up and gassed?

Have a peek that this and have laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

ruveyn

Have the Palestinians been rounded up and gassed?

ruveyn

They've been rounded up into Gaza haven't they. Does white phosphorous gas count?

They've been rounded up into Gaza haven't they.

No. They painted themselves into a corner by refusing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist and refusing to negotiate a solution to the problem.