How should I react to America's grim future?

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01 Mar 2016, 10:49 am

“I don't vote. Two reasons. First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The s**t they shovel around every 4 years *pfff* doesn't mean a f*****g thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.” -- George Carlin


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01 Mar 2016, 11:33 am

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I wonder how many of you actually vote.


I have been voting since age eighteen.


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01 Mar 2016, 12:02 pm

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Trump is certainly better than a tyrant that got soldiers killed, showed no remorse for it and also compromised national security for her foreign donors. Anyone who votes for Hilary is a delusional idiot. Honestly, there can't be a worse possible candidate, unless Kim Jong Un is allowed to run as POTUS.


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01 Mar 2016, 12:03 pm

I have voted since the age of 18.


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01 Mar 2016, 12:34 pm

^I started voting at 16 with a fake I.D.! I'm better than you!


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01 Mar 2016, 12:35 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
^I started voting at 16 with a fake I.D.! I'm better than you!


think this is pretty common in Illinois

I've also heard the dead rise to vote early and often too

crazy place



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01 Mar 2016, 12:46 pm

CommanderKeen wrote:
I wonder how many of you actually vote.


I voted in the last and only election I've been legal to vote. I'll maybe vote in this general election if Sanders gets the nomination. I already participated in the Iowa Caucus and voted for which candidate I want the nomination to go to for the Democratic party. If Hilary wins the nomination, I'm apt to not voting at all this year.



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01 Mar 2016, 1:25 pm

It matters not who is "elected", the whole thing is a sham along with everything else to give the illusion of freedom when in fact we are on cruise control to globalization, they've been openly talking about it for years now and everything points towards it. I've watched since childhood presidential candidates promise a multitude of things yet once in office nothing ever changes. Now we have a nation divided between left and right wing supporters who are forgetting those wings may be on opposite sides but each belong to the same body headed in one direction.


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“We have before us the opportunity to forge, for ourselves and for future generations, a New World Order. A world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, rules all nations. When we are successful–and we will be–we have a real chance at this New World Order. An order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping forces to fulfill the promise and vision of its founders.”
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01 Mar 2016, 3:34 pm

The thing is, everyone expects what has happened before. If there is a The New World Order (& I'm not at all convinced that's where we are headed) it won't be a war between nations; it will be a war between the 1% and the rest of humanity (let's call them Capitalist feedstock). And it will be won without a shot being fired. Worse yet, it'll be over before anyone realizes they surrendered unconditionally.


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01 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm

posted in wrong thread.



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01 Mar 2016, 9:10 pm

I was wondering if the Capitalist feedstock (the teaming masses) would be bookended with the 1% at one end and the religious fanatics (ISIS types) at the other end.


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01 Mar 2016, 9:28 pm

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I was wondering of the Capitalist feedstock (the teaming masses) would be bookended with the 1% at one end and the religious fanatics (ISIS types) at the other end.


That seems to be where the right wants us to be.


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01 Mar 2016, 10:00 pm

CommanderKeen wrote:
Trump is certainly better than a tyrant that got soldiers killed, showed no remorse for it and also compromised national security for her foreign donors. Anyone who votes for Hilary is a delusional idiot. Honestly, there can't be a worse possible candidate, unless Kim Jong Un is allowed to run as POTUS.

I would vote for Kim Jong Un before Trump. Yes, he's a Juche Fundamentalist, but at least it's an ethos.



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01 Mar 2016, 11:11 pm

I'd pay money to see Tump and Un in a cage match.


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01 Mar 2016, 11:23 pm

I think we're going to be seeing a lot of people move to Canada if Donald Trump or Ted Cruz get elected. I might get to meet some of my friends in person. Canada/US relations aren't going to be that great though, since we just elected our first Liberal PM in YEARS.


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01 Mar 2016, 11:26 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
I think we're going to be seeing a lot of people move to Canada if Donald Trump or Ted Cruz get elected. I might get to meet some of my friends in person. Canada/US relations aren't going to be that great though, since we just elected our first Liberal PM in YEARS.


I remember people talking about migrating is George W. Bush would get re-elected. How many have acted on their statement to do such a thing? And how much of it was just talk?