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29 Sep 2016, 11:22 pm

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You again? Did you ever answer my question about why folks such as yourself use terms like "black on black crime" but not "white on white crime?" Or why Donald Trump is concerned with illegal immigrants who are rapists instead of your white peers such as Brock Turner who are raping women behind dumpsters? Because according to your logic, Trump should be focused on white on white crime. Did you ever explain why you aren't as obsessed with your white peers getting away with raping women behind dumpsters? New question: Are you concerned with how the police are capable of capturing white school shooters without using lethal force but kill black people who are unarmed? Or what about the 20 year old white kid who was found eating the man he killed yet officers only used tasers and not deadly force? You have over 11 pages worth of posts on topics of racism is imaginary. If you don't get it now, then that is a choice you've made.


Extremely valid points: a white cannibal killer survives arrest, but an unarmed black man in a traffic stop gets shot.


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29 Sep 2016, 11:26 pm

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Well if you have a negative opinion about someone due to their skin color/ethnicity...that is considered racist, which makes sense. Like if you have a negative opinion of certain people that happen to be a different ethnicity I don't really see the problem there...but if you decide that negative opinion should apply to anyone else that shares the same race or ethnicity with that person than it's problematic.

Also why isn't crime just referred to as crime...why don't they call crimes white people commit against other white people white on white crime? Also racism and racial profiling amoung law enforcement is not 'microscopic' at all...and it doesn't even just stop there people with mental disorders/conditions and homeless people also are unfairly profiled by police.

That said I don't have any 'white guilt' but yet I still think racism is an issue.


Conservatives are fond of accusing white liberals of "white guilt" whenever said liberals call for redressing racial wrongs of the past.


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29 Sep 2016, 11:51 pm

ResilientBrilliance wrote:
You again?


You're surprised to him posting in the same forum you last saw him posting in? How odd.

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Did you ever answer my question about why folks such as yourself use terms like "black on black crime" but not "white on white crime?"


What exactly do you mean by "folks such as yourself"?

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Or why Donald Trump is concerned with illegal immigrants who are rapists instead of your white peers such as Brock Turner who are raping women behind dumpsters?


Are you suggesting that his campaign for POTUS should be focused on Brock Turner rather than addressing wider societal problems?

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Because according to your logic, Trump should be focused on white on white crime.


I must have missed the part where L_Holmes suggested that Trump was in any way analogous to BLM.

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Did you ever explain why you aren't as obsessed with your white peers getting away with raping women behind dumpsters?


"White peers"? Do you need someone to explain to you why that's both racist and a personal attack?

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New question: Are you concerned with how the police are capable of capturing white school shooters without using lethal force but kill black people who are unarmed?


Are you claiming these are typical outcomes or are you wilfully comparing outliers in order to spin a false narrative?

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Or what about the 20 year old white kid who was found eating the man he killed yet officers only used tasers and not deadly force?


You seem to have a disturbing desire to see white people being killed.

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You have over 11 pages worth of posts on topics of racism is imaginary.


Please provide a link to just one of his posts that states such.

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If you don't get it now, then that is a choice you've made.


We get it. You hate white people. But there's always hope for reform. Not sure how L_Holmes, or indeed anyone else, is responsible for decisions that you've made, however.



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29 Sep 2016, 11:52 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Extremely valid points: a white cannibal killer survives arrest, but an unarmed black man in a traffic stop gets shot.


Valid how?



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30 Sep 2016, 12:04 am

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Extremely valid points: a white cannibal killer survives arrest, but an unarmed black man in a traffic stop gets shot.


It might have been a valid point if it were the same cop in both situations; as it is it's just apples to oranges.


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30 Sep 2016, 12:12 am

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Extremely valid points: a white cannibal killer survives arrest, but an unarmed black man in a traffic stop gets shot.


Valid how?


Police seem to think the life of someone who commits what is perhaps the vilest of crimes - killing and eating another human being - is apparently of more worth than an unarmed black motorist, seemingly due to the color of their skin. I thought it was pretty well self explanatory.


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30 Sep 2016, 12:14 am

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Extremely valid points: a white cannibal killer survives arrest, but an unarmed black man in a traffic stop gets shot.


It might have been a valid point if it were the same cop in both situations; as it is it's just apples to oranges.


Not when we're talking about a shared racist culture of policing across the country.


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30 Sep 2016, 12:22 am

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Not when we're talking about a shared racist culture of policing across the country.


Unless you're claiming to be psychic and able to determine why one cop shot in one situation and a completely different cop in a completely different one didn't shoot, it's not a valid comparison.


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30 Sep 2016, 12:26 am

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Not when we're talking about a shared racist culture of policing across the country.


Unless you're claiming to be psychic and able to determine why one cop shot in one situation and a completely different cop in a completely different one didn't shoot, it's not a valid comparison.


I needn't be a psychic to see all the controversial, if not out and out unjustified, shootings of black men across the country, followed up be the various police departments attempting to defend or even cover up any wrongdoing.


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30 Sep 2016, 12:33 am

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I needn't be a psychic to see all the controversial, if not out and out unjustified, shootings of black men across the country, followed up be the various police departments attempting to defend or even cover up any wrongdoing.


But you do need to be psychic to determine why one particular cop shot and one didn't, like you originally said. I'm no friend of the police, but I'm even less of a friend to people who claim they know the motivations of others.


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30 Sep 2016, 12:48 am

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I needn't be a psychic to see all the controversial, if not out and out unjustified, shootings of black men across the country, followed up be the various police departments attempting to defend or even cover up any wrongdoing.


But you do need to be psychic to determine why one particular cop shot and one didn't, like you originally said. I'm no friend of the police, but I'm even less of a friend to people who claim they know the motivations of others.


Sure, not every police shooting of black men is unjustified or racially motivated, but a great many appear to be. It doesn't take a psychic to follow a pattern of behavior here.-


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30 Sep 2016, 12:49 am

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Police seem to think the life of someone who commits what is perhaps the vilest of crimes - killing and eating another human being - is apparently of more worth than an unarmed black motorist, seemingly due to the color of their skin. I thought it was pretty well self explanatory.


Citation needed.



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30 Sep 2016, 1:27 am

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Police seem to think the life of someone who commits what is perhaps the vilest of crimes - killing and eating another human being - is apparently of more worth than an unarmed black motorist, seemingly due to the color of their skin. I thought it was pretty well self explanatory.


Citation needed.


I was referring to the college aged kid who killed a middle aged man, then proceeded to eat his face. The police took him in alive, even though I'm sure no one would have blinked if they had blown that monster away. As for the black men shot little or no reason by the police; you need only watch the news.


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30 Sep 2016, 2:03 am

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adifferentname wrote:
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Police seem to think the life of someone who commits what is perhaps the vilest of crimes - killing and eating another human being - is apparently of more worth than an unarmed black motorist, seemingly due to the color of their skin. I thought it was pretty well self explanatory.


Citation needed.


I was referring to the college aged kid who killed a middle aged man, then proceeded to eat his face. The police took him in alive, even though I'm sure no one would have blinked if they had blown that monster away. As for the black men shot little or no reason by the police; you need only watch the news.


That's not a citation in support of what you believe police think. Have another pop.



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30 Sep 2016, 2:08 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Police seem to think the life of someone who commits what is perhaps the vilest of crimes - killing and eating another human being - is apparently of more worth than an unarmed black motorist, seemingly due to the color of their skin. I thought it was pretty well self explanatory.


Citation needed.


I was referring to the college aged kid who killed a middle aged man, then proceeded to eat his face. The police took him in alive, even though I'm sure no one would have blinked if they had blown that monster away. As for the black men shot little or no reason by the police; you need only watch the news.


That's not a citation in support of what you believe police think. Have another pop.


No, it isn't, and as I'm tired and need to get up in the morning to donate plasma, I'll leave you to either look it up yourself, convulse in anxiety over unanswered questions, or just flat reject my argument. As the fate of the world, or even the fate of the dog next door, doesn't rest with whether I cite something or don't cite something, I'm just going to go to bed.


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30 Sep 2016, 2:42 am

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No, it isn't, and as I'm tired and need to get up in the morning to donate plasma, I'll leave you to either look it up yourself, convulse in anxiety over unanswered questions, or just flat reject my argument. As the fate of the world, or even the fate of the dog next door, doesn't rest with whether I cite something or don't cite something, I'm just going to go to bed.


You're suggesting I look up your justification for sweeping claims regarding cops? :roll:

Sweet dreams.