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AspieUtah wrote:
I like GnosticBishop's writings here at WrongPlanet.net. I am, if pressed gently, also a gnostic Christian. No brick-and-mortar church contains me or my ideas conveniently, though I have stood at the edges of more than one Episcopal congregation. I hope GnosticBishop's writings continue. I might not always respond to them, but I do read them and see little need to chime in with the only remark I could make is "ditto."
Thanks for this.
How would you describe a Gnostic Christian and his ideology?
Not me please as I am likely seen as a mental bully due to feeling I have a duty not only to promote the Gnostic Christian ideology but also to actively fight those ideologies, like Christianity's, that I find immoral.
Ancient Gnostic Christians named Yahweh a vile demiurge for a reason and I follow their tradition and opinion.
Regards
DL
The gnostic Supreme Being was described by Jesus as "a Spirit." I take this to mean that, like all fallable beings, a demiurge falls short of the Spirit's described intent, ideas, concepts and precepts.
Indeed. By a long shot given that he can use genocide and have his own son needlessly murdered to forgive us instead of just forgiving us.
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Those humans who created and create various ideologies, especially those which are immoral, could be described as parts of the demiurge.
True as Yahweh only exists in the minds of believers who do not seem to care that he is a genocidal God. They, in a sense, are the evil propagators of adoration of a vile God.
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But, distinguishing morality and immorality is an solitary venture.
Indeed as all moral positions are subjective and not objective.
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I understand that some ancient gnostic Christians were so dualistic in their ideas that, in the context of a Supreme Being who didn't create a demiurge and its constituents, they saw the Supreme Being peddling slowly (or not at all) in the development of good when the demiurge constituents are seemingly left to their own devices against all the bad in the world.
True, while saying they are all sinners that must do as bid by their genocidal God if they want to be saved. If evil, which we think he is, it is like saying they have to follow Satan. Not that she exists any more than any supernatural entity.
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That would cause much concern and anger.
Possibly enough anger to have then use the violence they used to grow Christianity instead of good life affirming arguments and moral tenets.
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I am, in my better moments, less dualistic than some ancient gnostic Christians. But, I see a need to create a better, personal relationship and understanding of the gnostic Supreme Being.
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Where do you seek knowledge of that Gnostic Christian supreme being? Through Gnosis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9QI3nlinYQWhat do you mean by dualistic? Some see Yin and Yang as opposites while I see them as complimentary to each other. Not like black and white or opposites but more like front and back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3LJ5HNfNEYWe are quite naturalistic in our thinking.
Take evolution and it's competition and cooperation.
In reality, we see a lot more cooperation in the world than competition.
If there were around the equal of those two aspects of evolution, I think things would be a lot worse in the world than there is. I see a lot more good cooperation in us than competition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ADgh3yCSdMRegards
DL
30 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm
