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02 Apr 2006, 5:13 pm

It helps to know history and ancient languages. the seven headed beast is seven nations of europe. the red dragon was and is the symbol of imperial persia and rome. babylon is iraq the number seven keeps popping up. in ancient hebrew seven also meant to swear an oath. dont try to over think it. occums razor, its pretty obvious just know history and languages. oh and jesus did not say love thy neigbor HE said serve thy neigboor. the word he used was agape wich is greek for serve as opposed ot philos wich is fraternal love like we understand it. your free to not like people you just have to help them. it could even be strecthed to serve them their do.



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02 Apr 2006, 5:14 pm

ewtn is really good .



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02 Apr 2006, 6:39 pm

I think that there are some things that are hard for me to understand in the Bible, but the Bible shouldn't be tampered with in my opinion. I also think that having the Holy Spirit helps with understanding the Bible, since before I was saved I couldn't understand lots of the Bible without it. God kind of opens your mind up to all those things when you're saved, and undergo many changes.


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02 Apr 2006, 9:17 pm

dont really on spirit. really dont. bad nasties can impersonate the holy spirit and lead you in very places. it says so in the bible that evil can impersonate the good guys and even call itself God and the holy spirit. they can call themselves and tell you their anything God holy spirit lord angel. they cannot however say the name of the son of God without going back to the pit



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02 Apr 2006, 10:06 pm

aspiegirl2 wrote:
I think that there are some things that are hard for me to understand in the Bible, but the Bible shouldn't be tampered with in my opinion. I also think that having the Holy Spirit helps with understanding the Bible, since before I was saved I couldn't understand lots of the Bible without it. God kind of opens your mind up to all those things when you're saved, and undergo many changes.


"I Corinthians 2: 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."



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02 Apr 2006, 10:24 pm

walk-in-the-rain wrote: "I Corinthians 2: 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."


While it is true that the natural man cannot recieve the things of the Spirit, we do need to be careful of relying on some kind of feeling or mystical experience. When this is practiced a person could say 'the Spirit told me this' and another person can claim that the Spirit told them the complete opposite! (seen it happen a million times) The best way to understand the Bible is to diligently study it and compare Scripture with Scripture. Then it can be seen how it all fits together. (that is not to say that we are not guided by God but His word is clear to the sincere seeker. Remember, we are told to 'study to shew thyself approved')


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02 Apr 2006, 10:49 pm

Bland wrote:
The best way to understand the Bible is to diligently study it and compare Scripture with Scripture. Then it can be seen how it all fits together. (that is not to say that we are not guided by God but His word is clear to the sincere seeker. Remember, we are told to 'study to shew thyself approved')


I agree completely and perhaps should have elaborated. My husband says I have a tendency to only say part of my thoughts without completing it. We are to test things to see if what they say lines up with Scripture and in order to do that we have to know what Scripture says. And alot of people like to rely on someone else to interpret the Bible for them and then they get into trouble because they have no way either to determine if that person is being accurate or off on a tangent. But we can't just rely on our own understanding either because what may sound OK at first still has to be screened through Scripture to see if it is truthful. But no you can't just rely on feelings because they can be innaccurate.



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02 Apr 2006, 11:07 pm

I agree and I did not mean to appear argumentative. I think the key lies in the 1 Corinthians 2:13 passage; 'Comparing spiritual with spiritual'. The only way to compare spiritual things is to go to the source of spiritual knowlege; the Bible.


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02 Apr 2006, 11:27 pm

Bland wrote:
I agree and I did not mean to appear argumentative. .


I didn't think you were being argumentative :)



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03 Apr 2006, 12:17 am

you should know though the bible does not say sola scriptora



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03 Apr 2006, 9:57 am

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you should know though the bible does not say sola scriptora


Neither is the word dinosaur. Just because an exact phrase like sola scriptura (Latin) isn't specifically said in the Bible does not mean that it is irrelevant. That is why studying the whole of Scripture is important so you know what the Bible says. And the Bible does address elevating the traditions of man over Scripture - so Scripture must trump tradition every time. So, you must KNOW Scripture to know if someone's tradition has a Biblical basis. If the tradition contradicts the Bible than there is no basis for it.



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04 Apr 2006, 9:42 pm

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Do any of you ever find the bible nearly impossible to understand with all o the symbolism and stuff. I was wondering if any of you ever think that an aspie/autie bible would be a good thing for someone to create explain all that symbolism and stuff.
Bryan


No, to both questions. There's several differnet translations of the bible, if you want something easier to understand, get a student bible.



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06 Apr 2006, 4:15 pm

and it also says jesus taught and performed many things wich were not written down



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08 Apr 2006, 1:37 pm

Hiya, i confirmed my beliefs today.....

I also find the bible really confusing, but i like the palms (or however it is spelt)....

I love the idea that God can love me for who i am, aspie or Nt it doesent matter, he made me exactally how i need to be to do what i need to do for him.

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01 May 2006, 3:45 pm

I find that it helps to either pray that the meaning will be revealed though the Holy Spirit or I talk with trusted Christians about thier opinions. Than I pray about it more and make a decision. It actually does take some effort on some passages, but even tha Apostle Paul acknowledged that we would find some things hard to understand. :D


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02 May 2006, 2:32 am

Please read your bible before asking questions that are already answered in the bible. Yes, the bible does explain why it is written in confusing parables. Grab your bible and lookup Mark 4:11-12. Or I quote it following:

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"And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them."
(Jesus according to Mark 4:11-12, KJV)


As Jesus himself explains above, the reason why he talks in parables is to confuse people so that they will go to hell (not be forgiven). Yes I know that is sadistic, but if you had actually read your bible you would already know that Jesus is sadistic.