Kraichgauer
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Kraichgauer
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15 Oct 2019, 8:02 pm
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
Speaking of the American Civil War, for the record I just wanna say how sh***y it was that the only true reason the Union abolished slavery was not because they had sympathy for black people, it was really because they wanted to destroy the South's economy as punishment for essentially betraying this country.
Very few white people in those days actually gave a s**t about the rights of black people, or indigenous people, or Asians, or other white immigrants from countries like Ireland and Germany.
I'm sorry but I just don't buy into the white savior crap that the US government shoves down our throats about that war. Both sides treated black people and former slaves like s**t before, during, and long after the war.
Edit: Also it just bothers me because that war really destroyed the south and after being defeated we were basically reduced to being the scapegoats for all the problems of racism in this country.
I just don't get why so many southerners are deeply patriotic for a country that treated them like s**t?
Ok, rant over.
Very few white people in those days actually gave a s**t about the rights of black people, or indigenous people, or Asians, or other white immigrants from countries like Ireland and Germany.
I'm sorry but I just don't buy into the white savior crap that the US government shoves down our throats about that war. Both sides treated black people and former slaves like s**t before, during, and long after the war.
Edit: Also it just bothers me because that war really destroyed the south and after being defeated we were basically reduced to being the scapegoats for all the problems of racism in this country.
I just don't get why so many southerners are deeply patriotic for a country that treated them like s**t?
Ok, rant over.
Lincoln certainly did change and grow as a President and as a human being. He did finally realize that blacks needed to be given full citizenship as Americans, including the right to vote, and Republican Radicals like Thaddeus Stevens also were very concerned for the rights and welfare of blacks. To be sure though, there was plenty of racism in the north as well as the south.
My point is, the Confederacy had been formed solely for the preservation of slavery and white supremacy, which is confirmed by the writings and statements by their own political leaders.
15 Oct 2019, 8:15 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
Speaking of the American Civil War, for the record I just wanna say how sh***y it was that the only true reason the Union abolished slavery was not because they had sympathy for black people, it was really because they wanted to destroy the South's economy as punishment for essentially betraying this country.
Very few white people in those days actually gave a s**t about the rights of black people, or indigenous people, or Asians, or other white immigrants from countries like Ireland and Germany.
I'm sorry but I just don't buy into the white savior crap that the US government shoves down our throats about that war. Both sides treated black people and former slaves like s**t before, during, and long after the war.
Edit: Also it just bothers me because that war really destroyed the south and after being defeated we were basically reduced to being the scapegoats for all the problems of racism in this country.
I just don't get why so many southerners are deeply patriotic for a country that treated them like s**t?
Ok, rant over.
Very few white people in those days actually gave a s**t about the rights of black people, or indigenous people, or Asians, or other white immigrants from countries like Ireland and Germany.
I'm sorry but I just don't buy into the white savior crap that the US government shoves down our throats about that war. Both sides treated black people and former slaves like s**t before, during, and long after the war.
Edit: Also it just bothers me because that war really destroyed the south and after being defeated we were basically reduced to being the scapegoats for all the problems of racism in this country.
I just don't get why so many southerners are deeply patriotic for a country that treated them like s**t?
Ok, rant over.
Lincoln certainly did change and grow as a President and as a human being. He did finally realize that blacks needed to be given full citizenship as Americans, including the right to vote, and Republican Radicals like Thaddeus Stevens also were very concerned for the rights and welfare of blacks. To be sure though, there was plenty of racism in the north as well as the south.
My point is, the Confederacy had been formed solely for the preservation of slavery and white supremacy, which is confirmed by the writings and statements by their own political leaders.
I still think what they did to the south was pretty sh***y though. They destroyed us and the south never fully recovered from the war.
We're the region that the rest of the country loves to hate. They often make jokes about us on TV at our expense and mock us as "rednecks", "hillbillies", and "hicks". They claim that we are all illiterate racist inbreds because the rest of the country does not want to take a look in the mirror at some of the racist crap they have done too.
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Kraichgauer
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15 Oct 2019, 9:20 pm
VegetableMan wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
Personally I did not like Obama because he refused to punish the Bush administration for the war crimes commited in Iraq.
That's because both parties are in bed with the military-industrial complex. Obama is every bit as much a war criminal as Bush. taking us from two to seven wars in the ME. According to Chomsky, every post WW2 president, if held to the standards of the Nuremberg tribunals, would be indictable for war crimes. It's an ugly truth, but it's true.
I know. That's pretty much why I despise this country. It baffles me how our government gets away with the s**t that it does.
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