Hiding Being a Trump Supporter

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I wouldnt talk about "ignorant" if I were you. You are obviously ignorant of how fragile democracy is.



No one is accusing Trump of secretely "ordering" the attack on Capitol Hill.

Trump does not have to "order" anything.

A) Trump was being criminally negligent by not following the tradition of accepting defeat, and of acknowledging Biden as being his rightful successor. Failing to do that would undermine democracy even in nonpolarized times.

In the polarized atmosphere of the unusually divisive election that negligence was criminal- and had the predictable result. And actually he DID order it between the lines in speeches. All of that "never give up" stuff.

B) Further, Trump continues with his big lie that the election was stolen from him. He is clearly trying to steal back the Oval office, and subvert democracy.

Finnally - are you REALLY ...THAT...OBTUSE when you say that "supporting a guy does not mean supporting everything he does". Thats assbackward. You can support a pol for everything they do...but if they do one thing thats heinous - you can continue to support them.

My point was that Trump threatened the rule of law and threatened democracy itself -is still doing that- right out in public. And that negates everything else he may have done in office that might have been good.

Ergo you can no longer support Trump if you believe in democracy. Even if you're like Soc, and like some stuff he did while in office.

Regarding the general topic at hand, has anybody considered maybe just... not vomiting political opinions in public in the first place? Why should it be anybody's business what my political leanings might be, or any of my business what theirs are? Why should that dictate whether I'm welcome in a shop or a restaurant, or how other people on the street treat me?

We have no need to loudly scream about who we support or what other people should think about that, or what they should feel about (not) supporting the same. We can just be human beings living together, getting on with our daily lives, not caring about who that person votes for or what this person thinks about our preferred candidates. If you do feel the need to provide unsolicited political commentary in public, well, you should probably expect somebody to take exception to it, because they'll be responding in kind to your (probably unnecessary and perhaps unwelcome) messaging.

Ultimately I may or may not agree with peoples' political views, they have their reasons and I have mine, but there's unlikely to be any benefit from either of us trying to actively discriminate against the other or walking around with big "I voted for the person you hate!" designs on our shirts. Live and let live, keep the politics for the appropriate time and place, and we can all get on with being blissfully ignorant.

She didn't say if her Carhartt hat has words like, "Make America great again" or "Trump 2020" on it.

I, for one, addressed that very issue...see above.

Probably others on this thread did as well.

Here you go
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... loyalists/

Will this help? (See #1044)

Source:  Link to Official List of Trump's Atrocities 

Ah, apologies, I admit I skimmed the thread a bit vaguely, trying to skip all the back and forth about Trump/Hilary/who hates which sectors of society/etc. I'm glad I'm not the only one who suggested it.

The Republican party is heading into the midterms with a new loyalty test that members must pass: To stay in good standing in the party, they need to lie and say that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election, which creates two electoral risks for the party:

1) The first is that Republican lawmakers who tell the truth about the 2020 election are more vulnerable to primary challenges from those who endorse Trump's baseless claims, which will drive the party further right.

2) A second substantial risk is that some of those most devoted to Trump may call for boycotts of electoral contests they perceive as rigged.  Few will likely heed those calls, but even marginal boycotts -- of, say, a percentage or two of the Republican base -- could have a profound impact on closely contested elections.

These approaches to Trump's claims within the GOP could lead to the party limiting its overall appeal come election-time.


Source:  This Newsweek Article 

There seems to be more support for Trump-era policies among the Republican base than there is for Trump himself.

Most Republican voters want former President Donald Trump to run for the White House again in 2024, or at least want the winner of the GOP primary to mostly agree with him on policy issues.

Two-thirds of Republican voters (66 percent) said they would like Trump to run for the presidency in 2024, while only 30 percent were opposed to the idea.

Among ALL American voters, however, the results were reversed.  Sixty-six percent say they do NOT want Trump to run again, and ONLY thirty-three percent say they want him to have another go.

Source:  This Newsweek Article 

OP did not have to deal with threats like this.I drive thru Marshall about every month with my Impeach Trump and Biden/Harris bumper stickers.I never removed them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wreg.com/n ... posts/amp/

And then



I am assuming therefore that the majority of GOP voters still believe in this fake claim concocted by Trump strategists to invalidate the likely democrat support through postal ballot. Biden/Harris asked their voters to do the responsible thing and send their votes via postal ballot to minimise the risk of spreading or catching COVID-19. The Trump camp knew this so hatched this fake ruse that democrats were going to use fake ballots, So blatantly transparent.

To me this remains the biggest problem with your country that you have 74 million people who have an untreated psychosis in blindly believing lies from a greedy lying opportunist like Trump and refusing to listen to reason.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... loyalists/

Trump's election in 2016 is a symptom of something much deeper e.g. something psychologically wrong with American conservatives.

I have a friend who is a proud Trump supporter and he has no problem admitting that to people. He said that the reason he likes Trump is because unlike other political leaders who run for offices, who make promises and then abandon them once they are elected, and only made them to get elected, Trump at least stuck to his promises and did what he said he was going to do, and that's more you can say for most peopel running for offices. I guess I can't fault Trump there it seems from what I can tell.

But I think the only reason why so many people hate Trump is because he is a republican. If Trump decided to join the democratic party and ran through them, then people would love him, because they love members of that party more.

You know full well that both of your points are nonsense.

What promise did Trump keep? None.

If it were "just because he is a Republican" then why isnt Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, and every other of the thousands of GOP politicians in the US also similarly hated?

I thought that you were Canadian. How can you have a "friend" who is either a Trump supporter, or a Trump nonsupporter? You have to be American to be either thing.

Only he didn't. Democrats make promises and don't follow through because they are weak and corrupted by corporate bribes. Republicans always follow through on policy that helps the rich. Not much else.


No. Party loyalty is mostly a right-wing thing. Democratic voters want things like single-payer healthcare, but elected Democrats that take corporate bribes do everything in their power to avoid dong what voters want. Democrats are not loved on the left. Not at all. People on the left hate both parties now.

Also Trump is a malignant narcissistic pig. I don't care what party he claims to support.

It seems like it's a cult around the worship of a malignant narcissist. I notice most of his hard-core supporters are extremely narcissistic and selfish. They could most likely be diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant Disorder. They're like toddlers.

I seem to remember Trump promising to replace Obamacare with something better. Never saw that happen.