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28 Nov 2007, 5:07 pm

Mc_Jeff wrote:

Being presented in cartoon form doesn't make the Liberal Loony Logic any less incoherent.

A small writing tip for you...

Always avoid alliteration. Always.

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28 Nov 2007, 5:10 pm

Mc_Jeff wrote:

Being presented in cartoon form doesn't make the Liberal Loony Logic any less incoherent.

Actually, I find This Modern World to be a reasonably interesting comic. I just don't like the writer's political position and don't really consider his grasp on economic issues or the logic of his opponents that sound. He seems to consider the phillips curve some evil control measure for example it seems to me at least.

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28 Nov 2007, 5:29 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

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... I just don't like the writer's political position and don't really consider his grasp on [...] the logic of his opponents that sound.

Oh. I thought he caricatured the opposition a bit to make things more humorous. Although this 4-panel is a great metaphor for US society today.

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28 Nov 2007, 5:31 pm

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Oh. I thought he caricatured the opposition a bit to make things more humorous. Although this 4-panel is a great metaphor for US society today.

That is definitely sort of true, but his caricatures can be based upon misunderstandings of positions and of logic and of cherrypicked data. I dunno, I guess I am not the biggest fan of basic political cartoons because I tend to like balance a lot.

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28 Nov 2007, 7:17 pm

Basically anything Ragtime, AwesomelyGlorius, or Mc Jeff write! is right-wing rhetoric. Though, i must say, you boys never give up on what you believe. Which is nice, but, i have to say you are a little deluded on your beliefs and what is considered moral. I mean seriously, do you actually believe all we are doing in the middle east is saving the world from islamaterrorism? lol!!

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28 Nov 2007, 7:53 pm

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Rhetoric? That seems like an arrogant attack on our beliefs if all of our statements are merely rhetoric. Deluded? Prove that we are wrong, I just see arrogant self-aggrandizement. Heck, prove your morality to us. Hunh? McJeff might be a fan of actions there but really, do you honestly believe that right-wing is homogeneous? Left-wing isn't homogeneous! Right-wing beliefs in foreign policy do include neoconservative idealism which would promote action in the middle east, but also realism which would avoid such an unstable area and isolationism which would not interfere with most areas in the first place. Really, do you think you would prefer to have real people with different beliefs, or do you prefer strawmen of real positions and the white knight vs the darkness fiction? I'm just asking here.

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28 Nov 2007, 8:09 pm

I'm sorry, maybe i just characterized you because you were part of the onslaught that attacked me for trying to make others think 'outside the box'. And no, just to follow up, i don't even agree that anyone anywhere should have a homogenized idea. I mean, what fun would that be, living in a world full of automatons. I'm glad you are autonamous, AG. I just think that the war is tallying a lot of lies to pacify many a good people. That's all.

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28 Nov 2007, 8:12 pm

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I'm sorry, maybe i just characterized you because you were part of the onslaught that attacked me for trying to make others think 'outside the box'.

Ah, ok, right, it was probably because I thought you were trying to force a reaction so I charged forward through it.

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And no, just to follow up, i don't even agree that anyone anywhere should have a homogenized idea. I mean, what fun would that be, living in a world full of automatons.

I can understand and sympathize with the idea somewhat.

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I'm glad you are autonamous, AG. I just think that the war is tallying a lot of lies to pacify many a good people. That's all.

Well, right, and I am not for the war either. The war is very costly for an uncertain or nonexistent gain.

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28 Nov 2007, 8:16 pm

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I challenged you to support your statement that Americans can only live on the blood of foreigners or whatever it was. Are you going to do that? Or are you going to just spout more cliche self-righteous, delusional liberal buzzwords?

Also, it's Islamofascism, not "islamaterrorism", and if you want I'd be perfectly glad to explain to you why Islamofascism is the perfect word to describe what we're facing.

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28 Nov 2007, 8:17 pm

Wow, AG. I can see sitting down with you, enjoying a cup of coffee, and talking about politics/ whatnot. And i wouldn't even hit on you.

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28 Nov 2007, 8:18 pm

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Wow, AG. I can see sitting down with you, enjoying a cup of coffee, and talking about politics/ whatnot. And i wouldn't even hit on you.

Nice. I don't like coffee much, but I do like the compliment!

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28 Nov 2007, 10:48 pm

I like coffee.

I also like having a brain. Has that one been thrown in yet?? :twisted:

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29 Nov 2007, 1:32 am

Hmmmm..... Jaded?

What's that, you like coffee?
What kind is your flavor?

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29 Nov 2007, 11:41 pm

monty wrote:

Reodor_Felgen wrote:

Delirium wrote:

- You think that George Bush is too liberal.
- You love Hitler.
- You stockpile weapons against ZOG in your Idaho compound.
- You write fan letters to Randy Weaver.
- You see 1984 as a how-to guide for running a country.
- You think that Jesus was a European gentile who supports supply-side economics and shares your hatred of gays, poor people, and minorities.

The national socialism is more left-wing extreme than right-wing extreme. If you overlook Hitler's racial theories, it's basically identical to the stalinism. Hitler was for abortion, capital punishment and genocide. He was also against capitalism, democracy and minority groups in general. He also ordered Goebbels to remove all religion after the war was over. In other words he was the prototype of a left-wing extremist. He also admired Stalin as much as he disliked him. The reason why he chose not to call himself a communist, was because Karl Marx was a jew, and because he competed against Stalin for the same goals.

Calling Hitler a right-wing extremist is the same as calling Rich Uncle Pennybags a left-wing extremist. There's a reason why it's called national socialism.

I see a problem with believing what Hitler said - that he was in fact a national socialist. He used anti-capitalist rhetoric to gain popularity, but he had no interest in nationalizing industry the way Stalin did. He was content to let Krups and Daimler-Benz and all the other large industrial conglomerates keep making money - provided they went along with his regime.

Fascism is really a better term to describe both Hitler and Mussolini. Mussolini defined fascism as being a right-wing collectivistic ideology in opposition to socialism, liberalism, democracy and individualism.

One definition of fascism:

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Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."[12] (wikipedia/fascism)

Another definition of fascism by Ayn Rand : the dictatorship of the wealthy, where as communism is the dictatorship of the poor.

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29 Nov 2007, 11:49 pm

Ayn Rand was a hypocritical c**t.

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30 Nov 2007, 12:02 am

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Ayn Rand was a hypocritical c**t.

does that preclude her from being correct?

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