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10 May 2008, 2:53 pm

Anyway this thread needs to be stop because unethical purposes in the first place.


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10 May 2008, 3:00 pm

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you're no anne frank, quit pretending that you are and over-dramatizing.


I'm telling the truth. My dad's side of the family in the present Czech Republic were killed by Hitler. If I'm over-dramatizing about this harsh fact of lost family to the Nazis then you are making a statement against me and my perspective. That is ok but saying the state of Israel shouldn't exist is a bad mistake of understanding because the UN was trying to prevent the Holocaust from happening again and Jews were forced out of the homeland by who other than the Palatines themselves.



the UN had little to do with the creation of israel other than the finalization process at the end and it has nothing to do with preventing another holocaust. preventing another holocaust would have been giving them land where they aren't taking other people's land from them where most of the region is very xenophobic anyways.

israel was little more than a story in history books until the balfour declaration where the UK announced its intent to create a jewish homeland. it's little more than a failed social experiment that is more of danger to society today than any benefits that could have possibly been reaped. i think the people who want safety should be moved out and given nice homes elsewhere and the people who want to stay will have to figure out how to co-exist with their neighbors without the bullying arm of the US involved in the process.

your father's tragedy is very sad and should not be forgotten and should not be downplayed. but it is also NOT justification for the creation of israel and the maintaining of such a failed idea and experiment. if anything, it creates more enmity in the world and encourages a potential repeat of the horrific tragedies your father's families experienced at the hands of the nazis. i could go into the whole thing but the region basically needs to be re-integrated back into normal society first before such an experiment as israel could really start to exist peacefully in such a region. it'd be like a mixed couple living in 1910 jackson mississippi. except everytime a burning cross is lit, there's retaliation against the racists that affect innocent people related in some way to the racists (like bombing entire areas or placing landmines near schools). it only serves to create more enmity and can't even start to get rid of the racist ideals impressed by amin al-husseinni.


Anyway this thread needs to be stop because unethical purposes in the first place.



the original start of the thread is pretty stupid...but don't quote me if you're not gonna address me, please. thanks.



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10 May 2008, 3:40 pm

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the original start of the thread is pretty stupid...but don't quote me if you're not gonna address me, please. thanks.
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Excuse me Bro, but since it didnt occur to already I'd like to point out that the OP did NOT mention a DAMN thing about the Holocaust! :x There's a REASON for that as it most certainly Is a very sensitive topic; especially for those with family members affeacted by it. But for cryin out loud, there's MUCH MORE to Judaica and being Jewish than than Holocaust! THAT is really what I was seeking to bring out with the OP. Now JerryHatake, being outraged over trivial remarks about the Holocaust is TOTALLY justified given your family history. But I had no idea that Joo was anything other than a phonetic (mis)pelling of the word Jew. I really hate the idea of Groups thinking that they have a right to say certain things about Their little club and others who arent part of that group should not be allowed to say it. I am NOT talking about pejorative slurs(if I had said "where are the kikes?" well then that would be grounds for outrage)or insults but moreso what twoshots was talking about: that "only jews have the right to tell jewish jokes". I really Hate Political Correctness and beyond WP its good to see that many Jewish Americans arent buying into it anymore. Maybe the NeoCon movement has encouraged them not to play the 'whiny victim' card anymore. :wink:



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10 May 2008, 3:54 pm

D1nk0 wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
the original start of the thread is pretty stupid...but don't quote me if you're not gonna address me, please. thanks.
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Excuse me Bro, but since it didnt occur to already I'd like to point out that the OP did NOT mention a DAMN thing about the Holocaust! :x There's a REASON for that as it most certainly Is a very sensitive topic; especially for those with family members affeacted by it. But for cryin out loud, there's MUCH MORE to Judaica and being Jewish than than Holocaust! THAT is really what I was seeking to bring out with the OP. Now JerryHatake, being outraged over trivial remarks about the Holocaust is TOTALLY justified given your family history. But I had no idea that Joo was anything other than a phonetic (mis)pelling of the word Jew. I really hate the idea of Groups thinking that they have a right to say certain things about Their little club and others who arent part of that group should not be allowed to say it. I am NOT talking about pejorative slurs(if I had said "where are the kikes?" well then that would be grounds for outrage)or insults but moreso what twoshots was talking about: that "only jews have the right to tell jewish jokes". I really Hate Political Correctness and beyond WP its good to see that many Jewish Americans arent buying into it anymore. Maybe the NeoCon movement has encouraged them not to play the 'whiny victim' card anymore. :wink:


all the OP was asking for was jewish stereotypes....which is pretty stupid. just like the mexicans one just like the blacks one etc etc.



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10 May 2008, 4:23 pm

I don't think I have Jewish descendants that I know of but I like Fiddler on the Roof. :)

BTW, the title comes bluntly off as Anti-simetic. Probably why people are aren't taking this topic well. I'm not antiSimetic as I appreciate how industrious Jewish communities have done to contribute and gain while in the face of hardships and labors when you really look at it from a historical perspective. Every culture, people, and country have a positive and negative aspect.

However, I do think it is ironic to see there are a lot of threads within this forum that derogate, deride, and misguide peoples of a certain culture, race, country, and religion yet I don't really see major reactions as this one. Again, I think because of the damaging title. The only difference is other posts slowly derail off the original topics that aren't exactly what you would call deragatory to a certain group of people. So in a since I think you're right and you're wrong dinko.

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10 May 2008, 4:24 pm

JerryHatake wrote:
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This thread is just ethical and I don't really like at because you people don't have any clue what it was like to be almost wipe out by a mad man and his followers.



you don't either. quit living vicariously through your relatives' stories and playing the victim.

and i think you mean unethical. or simply, just stupid.


and i repeat: pull all funds to israel. that was a social experiment gone horribly wrong.


Can you bare the fact that you lost some of your family's history to a mad man and his followers? I'm not a victim but my dad is. Yeah this an unethical and stupid thread in the first place as well. Wish this thread was locked by now.


Can you bare the fact that everyone in the world is a victim - but the majority of the world chooses not to play that card. but you do for some reason. Why?


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10 May 2008, 4:26 pm

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The Palatines are not smart


You must be stupid. Stereotyping one religion to make yours look better.

Yeah, JerryHatake is not smart.


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10 May 2008, 4:27 pm

This thread is going well past its use-by date.


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10 May 2008, 4:34 pm

I would advice all those who oppose Israel's right to exist to go to the region and fight them to remove them from the land.

That way I get the opportunity to see you get run over by an IDF tank.



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10 May 2008, 4:43 pm

Yeah this thread is done.


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10 May 2008, 4:44 pm

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I would advice all those who oppose Israel's right to exist to go to the region and fight them to remove them from the land.

That way I get the opportunity to see you get run over by an IDF tank.


Go go Israeli Defense Forces!! !



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10 May 2008, 4:53 pm

AspieZach wrote:
JerryHatake wrote:
The Palatines are not smart


You must be stupid. Stereotyping one religion to make yours look better.

Yeah, JerryHatake is not smart.



Well lets see, do we accept Palestine which is not a country at all after praising the 9/11 attacks? Jordan has a treaty with Israel so the Jordanians don't support the Palestinians' actions nor should we.


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10 May 2008, 5:34 pm

AspieZach wrote:
JerryHatake wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
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This thread is just ethical and I don't really like at because you people don't have any clue what it was like to be almost wipe out by a mad man and his followers.



you don't either. quit living vicariously through your relatives' stories and playing the victim.

and i think you mean unethical. or simply, just stupid.


and i repeat: pull all funds to israel. that was a social experiment gone horribly wrong.


Can you bare the fact that you lost some of your family's history to a mad man and his followers? I'm not a victim but my dad is. Yeah this an unethical and stupid thread in the first place as well. Wish this thread was locked by now.


Can you bare the fact that everyone in the world is a victim - but the majority of the world chooses not to play that card. but you do for some reason. Why?


i'm more of a victim than this guy but i normally keep my mouth shut about it.



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10 May 2008, 5:37 pm

skafather84 wrote:
AspieZach wrote:
JerryHatake wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
JerryHatake wrote:
This thread is just ethical and I don't really like at because you people don't have any clue what it was like to be almost wipe out by a mad man and his followers.



you don't either. quit living vicariously through your relatives' stories and playing the victim.

and i think you mean unethical. or simply, just stupid.


and i repeat: pull all funds to israel. that was a social experiment gone horribly wrong.


Can you bare the fact that you lost some of your family's history to a mad man and his followers? I'm not a victim but my dad is. Yeah this an unethical and stupid thread in the first place as well. Wish this thread was locked by now.


Can you bare the fact that everyone in the world is a victim - but the majority of the world chooses not to play that card. but you do for some reason. Why?


i'm more of a victim than this guy but i normally keep my mouth shut about it.


I do that as well, ska.


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10 May 2008, 5:43 pm

JerryHatake wrote:
AspieZach wrote:
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The Palatines are not smart


You must be stupid. Stereotyping one religion to make yours look better.

Yeah, JerryHatake is not smart.



Well lets see, do we accept Palestine which is not a country at all after praising the 9/11 attacks? Jordan has a treaty with Israel so the Jordanians don't support the Palestinians' actions nor should we.



your ignorance is breathtaking. the zionists really got their meathooks in you, eh?



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10 May 2008, 5:55 pm

skafather84 wrote:
JerryHatake wrote:
AspieZach wrote:
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The Palatines are not smart


You must be stupid. Stereotyping one religion to make yours look better.

Yeah, JerryHatake is not smart.



Well lets see, do we accept Palestine which is not a country at all after praising the 9/11 attacks? Jordan has a treaty with Israel so the Jordanians don't support the Palestinians' actions nor should we.



your ignorance is breathtaking. the zionists really got their meathooks in you, eh?


Well I'm not ignorant for one thing because my friend Jake stated that fact to me so restating his comment. Second, I'm neutral in the whole thing for different reasons.


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