Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

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I wouldnt need it if the world didnt start this way.. did i say get rid of it all? no.. too late for that.

Post-Neolithic Revolution humans had the worst life expectancy (at ~20 years, which certainly validates my assertion that longing for the good old days before the Industrial Revolution is a bit silly), but hunter gatherer populations have a consistently abysmal life expectancy (~33 years in the good cases). Now, this is generally an expectancy "from birth", which may be throwing you off, but most of what I've heard says the expectancy is about ~33, and has been so in hunter-gatherer populations from the Upper Paleolithic. Granted, the expected lifespan of anyone who makes it to 15 will still be in the 50s, but what you're asserting is completely inconsistent with everything I've heard. I have Shripad D. Tuljapurkar,1* Cedric O. Puleston,1 and Michael D. Gurven2 citing Gurven M, Kaplan H. (Hunter-gatherer longevity: Cross-cultural perspectives. Popul. Dev. Rev. in press. 2007) as saying the life expectancy for a hunter gatherer is 33.5 years. I mean, I don't think this is exactly controversial here. Prior to the advances of the last hundred years, people died a lot when they were young.

Any way you cut it, of course, in terms of longevity and overall health the absolute worst was pre-industrial neolithic techno level, but yeah...

Parties that are uninterested in progress will eventually get wiped out

Oh, well that's true.. Im not denying that.. but maybe my soul will live on and yours wont? it's possible.. I know what kind of 'progress' is in store and I will definately be whiped out for opposing it.

If there is a supernatural world, which I'm not necessarily denying, the most likely form is a single universal spirit which permeates everything that lives. In that case, death will only destroy my body. In the other case, I'll still get a good long reprieve for a consolation prize.

you just invented a theory that you only half believe on the spot.. I happen to think these days are the end times or the 'rapture' as christians would like to call it. And why shouldn't it be called that, that is what it is?.. only some are blind to it and some are not, this is how it works.. In the end, my soul will be saved for rejecting satan's number and that's all that matters..

No

I have held that opinion about the supernatural for a long time

I doubt there is a moral God

No just us getting pounded into dust tbqh

I don't know what God is or who he is.. maybe the bible is folly, and maybe it's not true altogether.. what I do know is that God in the bible strikes a remarkable resemblance to an egyptian counterpart called Amen.. which is a word used in the bible quite a lot.. im just speculating, but it is kind of interesting..

You seem to assume that 'progress' is uniformly good. No doubt that the judicious use of antibiotics can save lives. The Greeks were pretty oblivious to their voluntary lead intoxication, and that pattern could be repeating itself.

And what about world demographic patterns?... it isn't the educated, wealthy people that are multiplying like rabbits. It is the poor, superstitious people of the world that seem to be winning the population game.

Probably incidental



Yeah but they're also starving and don't have any power

I read you like a box of Kellogs cerial ^o^


But there's lots of talk about where Jesus the story figure came from and they all point to the ancient Egyptian religions.. i dont doubt if there's a connection.. it's not like Egypt did not play a role in the bible, it was very much a part of the religious world. Strange things hapening there.. Egypt is a mysterious place

so how's the unabomber thread going?

In the case of famine, they are at a disadvantage. Faced with a global viral pandemic, they might come out ahead merely on their numbers.

Well there'd be quarantines and more isolation and better medical knowledge and whatnot here

Hell I hardly ever see some of my neighbors

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Working in a factory is a lot less stressful than working in the service industry.

Tasks are more repetitious in an industrial zone career, but in the service industry it is a never ending war against rude customers who don't pick up after themselves and treat you like a robot.

Being a person who's worked in both, I would say that that is true although my reason for retail being bad is not because of the customers.. unless you work in walmart they expect the world and a bag of potatoe chips from you there. It is because of management and THEIR expectations...
But retail is more refreshing, there are always big windows to see outside and you see lots of diferent people everyday, not like a factory where you work in a dark hot muggy machine filled plasm of doom x_x