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14 Apr 2012, 9:18 am

I personally dislike body hair, period. Regarless of gender. I'm sure this is culturally influenced.

Re: Offbalance in heels. My husband finds pictures of models in awkward poses to be attractive for that reason, too. He has explained to me that her posture is compromising and she looks like she may fall and that is attractive. Seems to fit with what Ragtime said.

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14 Apr 2012, 9:18 am

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hyperlexian wrote:

i stopped shaving when i was 17 because i decided that any man who cared was not worth it.

I stopped at 15, and then got A LOT of sh** off my family, so took it up again. I have to shave, or I eventually look like freak show material. No, I don't have PCOS.

If you have the money, you might want to consider electrolysis to get the hair removed permanently so you won't have to bother. Of course, it's up to you.

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14 Apr 2012, 9:29 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:

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hyperlexian wrote:

i had one male friend who explained to me that some men like women to have high heels because it looks like they look like they are trying extra hard to get male attention. and it looks unnatural and kind of tippy, which can apparently be a turn-on. i don't know if that is actually true for other males, but it's an interesting theory.

True for me. Women who look like they could use some help are generally more attractive to most men -- probably because of men's natural instinct to be the "rock" or support in a relationship. I don't know if this is offensive in any way, but what your friend said is definitely a turn-on for me. My wife is small and fragile. That makes my :heart:

swell with love and the determination to protect her. I do think many other men react similarly to women who, in whatever way, look like they could use their help.

Infantalization is so cute. :roll:

Are there any women who prefer infantilized men?

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14 Apr 2012, 9:31 am

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Anyone here in this thread like corsets on women? Any of the women(here) enjoy wearing them??

My wife and I looked for one for her recently, but they go up to $400 and more for the kinds we wanted!

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14 Apr 2012, 9:34 am

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tell me, Ragtime and AspieRogue... what do you think of women with unshaved legs and armpits?

I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's not my taste. So that prompts a question back to you: What do you think about a woman with no body hair? I am fully aware that it's unnatural, but I like it, and I don't see anything wrong with it. It's just a taste like any taste.

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14 Apr 2012, 9:39 am

I used to talk at work about these women who get tattoos but then I wondered what if your soul mate has a tattoo. Would that be a reason to turn your back on her?

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14 Apr 2012, 9:48 am

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tell me, Ragtime and AspieRogue... what do you think of women with unshaved legs and armpits?

Honestly, I find unshaven legs and armpits on a woman to be unattractive. And while I'm not going to give any woman sh*t for refusing to shave, I certainly am not going to sleep with said women.

Also, where did you get the idea that men prefer short women to tall women? I can honestly say with complete certainty that most men are more concerned with a woman's weight than with her height as long as her height is within the normal range(5 to 6 feet). Women on the other hand, strongly prefer tall men to short men and many refuse to date men who aren't at least as tall as they are. Besides, tall women tend to have long legs and those are very attractive to us menz.

I can see more masculinity in most women than I care to.

It's my fault: as a teen, after learning in Health class about influences by sex hormones in people's developments, I used to look at people's faces and imagine their faces being that of the opposite sex. Weirded me out, but now it's a "talent" that I don't want! So, now, I'm only attracted to those women in whose faces I do not easily see masculinity. Fortunately, there are plenty of such women. So, I have the face version of the problem that Seinfeld had with the "man hands" girl he was dating in one episode:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSL4cmFW_GU[/youtube]

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14 Apr 2012, 9:58 am

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i don't really understand why a female would feel it is necessary to be taller to be listened to. it's really a matter of how a person projects him/herself. nobody ignores my feisty 4'11" sisters when they speak. they don't need high heels to project confidence.

Height dominance is not a gender thing. I'm 5' 6.5" -- in Texas. :roll:

You'd be surprised how much of a second-class citizen I'm treated like when I'm in an elevator or waiting in a restaurant line among 6' men. They give me less personal space (often none at all, rudely making physical contact as if they can't see I'm standing there), as if because I'm shorter my natural perimeter of personal space is proportionately smaller. So I do have to compensate with personality, because less-tall people -- especially if they're men -- are considered, well, less as people. When I see a man shorter than I am -- and believe me, that's rare -- I feel reeeally sorry for him, just because of how much I know other men AND women don't give him the time of day, just because of a body issue that he has no control over at all. It's not wrong for a man to be short, and it's not wrong for a woman to be tall. But dominance of personality often goes hand-in-hand with relative degree of height.

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14 Apr 2012, 10:04 am

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Even crazier than shaving, and on a par with high heels (not physically destructive in the long run, but socially a crazy trend) is the recent proliferation of botox to keep one's forehead from wrinkling.
I can see a couple of circumstances where this might be socially advantageous - professional poker players, for instance, or major events where showing stress would be damaging or stressful to oneself or one's family - but most of the time, it's about the wrinkles. Crazy.

I'm no fan of any kind of cosmetic surgery. When I look at or touch a woman, I want to touch the woman, not a doctor's art project.

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14 Apr 2012, 10:08 am

No body hair? You mean like a shaven head like the Star Trek Borg Queen ?

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14 Apr 2012, 10:11 am

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If you have the money, you might want to consider electrolysis to get the hair removed permanently so you won't have to bother. Of course, it's up to you.

My wife and I briefly thought about it for her, but it's out of our budget, very painful, and non-reversible. We're both big fans of reversible decisions, especially when it comes to body changes. What if I had her do electrolysis, and then I croak, and she marries someone who is into body hair? I'd like her to be able to accommodate him -- especially knowing that she has no strong preference about her own body hair.

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14 Apr 2012, 10:13 am

I stopped showering back in 1998 because I decided that any woman who cared wasn't worth it...

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14 Apr 2012, 10:23 am

I know but why would I let something superficial get in the way of a relationship? If the woman who loves me can't men with beards why should I grow a beard? Sometimes I might go a few days without shaving as an act of defiance.

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14 Apr 2012, 10:25 am

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I stopped showering back in 1998 because I decided that any woman who cared wasn't worth it...

Why didn't I think of quitting work back then, for the same reason?

There is something to be said for mutual accommodation, as opposed to getting relationship-ready with an "arms-closed" (inflexible, unwelcoming) approach.

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14 Apr 2012, 10:27 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

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swell with love and the determination to protect her. I do think many other men react similarly to women who, in whatever way, look like they could use their help.

Infantalization is so cute. :roll:

You were so nice in my diet thread. What happened? Not every woman wants to be Xena the Warrior Princess. And thank God!

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14 Apr 2012, 10:37 am

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No body hair? You mean like a shaven head like the Star Trek Borg Queen ?

Body hair doesn't include head hair.

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