Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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Ask women if they masturbate,. Most of them say 'no'. You might say that's just embarrassment, but what have they got to be embarrassed about?

I don't watch much tv, so I wouldn't know about that.

Also, most sex articles in women's magazines are about 'how to please your man', or if they do feature any method of pleasing yourself, it's usually just technique and doesn't focus on the real source of female sexual dissatisfaction: hatred of one's own body. So on one hand, the media tells women that they can and should be having orgasms, but at the same time guilt trips us into a life of dieting, beauty treatments and even cosmetic surgery before we can feel 'worthy' of to perform this basic biological function. I know from reading those sex articles that the advice they give is superficial, and whilst some of the techniques might achieve a physical reaction, you won't find any real satisfaction from yet another Cosmo article that says 'use ice', or whatever. The media doesn't understand female sexuality, it just sells more by talking about it.

That kind of carrot and stick manipulation is a perfect marketing strategy, really. 'Hey, you might be an ugly b***h right now, but if get a Brazilian, a boob job and a personal trainer, then you can pay for a Rampant Rabbit, so you can have an orgasm like those women on telly do'. Sorry, I know I'm exaggerating a lot there.

So maybe it's not taboo, just poorly understood and the media isn't actually helping all that much. The real barriers are a culture that promotes a poor self image amongst women (the main issue) and also the residual phallocentric attitudes towards sex (part of the reason why most porn is shot from the penis's POV).

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Ask women if they masturbate,. Most of them say 'no'.

Also, most sex articles in women's magazines are about 'how to please your man', or if they do feature any method of pleasing yourself, it's usually just technique and doesn't focus on the real source of female sexual dissatisfaction: hatred of one's own body. So on one hand, the media tells women that they can and should be having orgasms, but at the same time guilt trips us into a life of dieting, beauty treatments and even cosmetic surgery before we can feel 'worthy' of to perform this basic biological function. I know from reading those sex articles that the advice they give is superficial, and whilst some of the techniques might achieve a physical reaction, you won't find any real satisfaction from yet another Cosmo article that says 'use ice', or whatever. The media doesn't understand female sexuality, it just sells more by talking about it.

That kind of carrot and stick manipulation is a perfect marketing strategy, really. 'Hey, you might be an ugly b***h right now, but if get a Brazilian, a boob job and a personal trainer, then you can pay for a Rampant Rabbit, so you can have an orgasm like those women on telly do'. Sorry, I know I'm exaggerating a lot there.

So maybe it's not taboo, just poorly understood and the media isn't actually helping all that much. The real barriers are a culture that promotes a poor self image amongst women (the main issue) and also the residual phallocentric attitudes towards sex (part of the reason why most porn is shot from the penis's POV).

If this is a patriarchal society, then how come rape of a woman is considered worse than murder in our society, while rape of a man is the subject of jokes or people just assume the man is lucky and wanted it anyways?

Yeah adding "within patriarchal cultures" to "All sex is rape" makes it so much less of a melodramatic persecutory delusion . It isn't rape in any type of society that gives you the right to give consent.

So it's within the context of sex being the most effective means of oppression within an evil patriarchy. Well no sh**, I sort of figured that out already. But I guess adding "within patriarchal cultures" supposedly makes my argument irrelevant even though it's just stating the obvious. So would you care to specifically address it rather than dismiss it with something vague like "Ohhh you took it out of context"? Because you know, "within patriarchal cultures" doesn't give it some deep hidden meaning that can't be derived from a single paragraph.

Women and men should have equal rights. Equal. Feminism is too often associated

with misandry, the hatred of men.

But by eliminating childbirth you are eliminating a painful consequence of sex and this will lower inhibitions and cause society to behave with more promiscuity.

Yeah adding "within patriarchal cultures" to "All sex is rape" makes it so much less of a melodramatic persecutory delusion

It isn't rape in any type of society that gives you the right to give consent.

For example, porn often shows women being abused and taken advantage of during sex - f****. They are shown to enjoy it, so it's not exactly a rape fantasy, but it is a 'f**k' fantasy.

For example, porn often shows women being abused and taken advantage of during sex - f****. They are shown to enjoy it, so it's not exactly a rape fantasy, but it is a 'f**k' fantasy. It's a situation where one side is inherently dominant and can do whatever it wants, and the other side is inherently receptive to whatever the dominant party dishes out. Of course, not everyone enjoys sex this way; if they don't, they're breaking out of the patriarchal culture in at least that instance.

I think judging a society based on its porn and/or fantasies is a bit silly. I definitely don't think either porn or fantasies are an accurate guide to what people actually typically do in bed. I don't think they're even a particularly good guide to what people really want in bed.

Ich stimme mit Feminismus

* by misogynists

It makes for really bad sex for a lot of women (I've talked to a couple, and have heard of more, whose boyfriends were clearly inspired by the scarlet screen). It also changes what is expected of women, and women who decline to act in ways that reflect what men see on porn shows may find themselves alone at the end of the night. That's not a tragedy, but it does reinforce the point that {the stereotypical, most-often-seen} porn does not occur in some sort of isolated universe.

Another thing too is sometimes I think feminists get 'rights' and 'responsibilities' confused. Voting for example is a right, but it's also a responsibility. I don't vote, I think women should have the right to vote, but I see voting as equally being a responsibility/pain in the ass. In Australia you're forced to vote.

One of the feminist fights today is the right for women to serve in the army, I could guarantee you if we had a draft they wouldn't view that as a right they are denied, but as a responsibility they have the privilege of being excused from.

There's two sides to everything, voting and serving in the armed forces could either be seen as a right denied to women or a responsibility/duty women had the privilege of being excused from.

From what I've read, most women do masturbate.

Numerous women I've asked have told me 'yes'. Also, quite a few straight women on dating sites like okcupid freely admit that they do.

Furthermore, there are plenty of american women's magazines that feature articles on sexual positions that are supposed to facilitate her having an orgasm and not just him.

Their are factions of 2nd wave feminism that seek to encourage heterosexual women to avoid having sex with men, and turn to other women to meet their sexual needs.

Things must be very different in the UK when it comes to gender relations than they are in the US....Along with British societies attitude about secks.