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16 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm

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The sad, sad truth is that politicians are paid to ignore this.


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17 Oct 2023, 7:24 am

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This is, it is important to make clear, nonsense. The image depicts the territory that is today Israel and Palestine (both under the Israeli flag), alongside Jordan. The positioning of the text and the orientation of the Jordanian flag makes it impossible to distinguish between the Jordanian and Palestinian flags.

Jordan is not, as much as Jordan might have liked to claim otherside in the 1960s, Palestine. The current states of Israel and Palestine were formed out of British Mandatory Palestine, which was governed separately from Transjordan, ruled by Emir Abdullah I. The British didn't "give" Jordan to the Arabs, and in any case, if that had somehow been our intent then I'd politely point to the Indian subcontinent (as well as the Sykes-Picot line just to the north) as evidence for why modern geopolitics shouldn't be bound by lines drawn by British bureaucrats many decades ago. But there was no agreement with the local Muslims that they would all move to Jordan - Israel was imposed upon them.

The fact is that Palestinians mostly do not want to be part of Israel, and Israelis do not want to be part of Palestine, and that there is no obvious route to peace. A two-state solution isn't likely to be acceptable as long as significant portions of both countries want to see the other eradicated, but neither is any other solution.

(Actually quite a few of the Israel-Palestine images in this thread are nonsense, but this one jumped out from the sheer brazenness of using an image of Jordan to represent Palestine)



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17 Oct 2023, 7:45 am

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(Actually quite a few of the Israel-Palestine images in this thread are nonsense, but this one jumped out from the sheer brazenness of using an image of Jordan to represent Palestine)


If your reason to post is to edumecate then I think it would be a good idea for you to make a separate thread correcting the cartoon nonsense (I know that would take a lot of time and energy, so understand if you don't).


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17 Oct 2023, 8:00 am

^ What a smug face :lol:

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17 Oct 2023, 8:42 am

^ Who is that boy?


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17 Oct 2023, 8:49 am

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^ Who is that boy?


Smuggy McSmugness :lol:

Seriously, I don't know, the image is a meme template called 'College Conservative'


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If MAGA takes over, you'll see these guys everywhere. Watch your back.


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24 Oct 2023, 6:41 pm

Dying Gazans Criticized For Not Using Last Words To Condemn Hamas

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GAZA CITY, GAZA—The complicity of each and every Palestinian in the violent actions of their militant ruling authority was reportedly on full display Friday morning when dying Gazans received justified criticism for not using their last words to condemn Hamas. For example, instead of issuing a full-throated denunciation of the violent attacks by Hamas that have left over 1,300 Israelis dead, one dying woman holding her 6-year-old son who had just been killed in a bombing is said to have doubled down by telling her child she loved him. According to reports, such barbarism on the part of Palestinians was on full display across the Gaza Strip, where many men of fighting age could not muster a single world of reproof for Hamas’ actions while they coughed up blood. In war-ravaged Gaza City, a dying reporter was heard blatantly begging for help instead of labeling Hamas a terrorist organization. At press time, the Israeli Defense Forces Twitter account underscored the massive surge of contempt they were contending with by posting a video that featured the shocking savagery of a Palestinian corpse that refused to condemn Hamas even when kicked.


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